Monday, May 17, 2010

Riding a spoiled horse...?

I am riding a spoilt horse who is not violent, just pushy. He was never asked to do ANYTHING ( except be haltered and groomed twice a week) until he was 6, and he was broken in. How do I get him to listen to me without whacking him really hard, I have to either squeeze lightly and he goes, the next time he doesnt and just explodes at teh lightest touch. And yes saddle teeth and back have been checked.


Although we ride in an open paddock, he never goes to bolt, just tosses his head high and goes to nuck. Is he taking advantage or not understanding? I am being consistent.


Help!!!!

Riding a spoiled horse...?
Your horse sounds exactly like mine when i first got him. He was five and had never been worked. It was his way or the highway.





The answer is that you have to be pushy, if he's pushy. Don't let him get away with stupid stuff. But always remember that he's only six and two in his mind. Young horses come with silly habits that they with get over with time. The head tossing could be one of those things.





I also believe that it's 50 / 50 as far as understanding and not understanding. But be patient and consistent and someday you and your horse will make a great team. Ohhh...and if your not taking lesson i would recommend them. They helped me and my horse a lot.
Reply:You have to ride stronger, be more agressive. When he gets pushy, get pushy also. Im not saying to beat him, but get after him so he understands you are supposed to be the one in charge.





It sounds like most of his problem is that he has never had someone make him do what they wanted him to do, they just let him push them around.





When he goes to buck, pick his head up, and push him forward. If he is tossing his head, you may have to be lighter on your reins, or it could have been someone before you who rode him and was on his his mouth. You might want to try a tiedown on him if you ride western, and maybe a martingale or daisy reins if you ride english, to keep his head down more.





Hope This Helps!


Good Luck!





*Barrel Racer*
Reply:Hire a trainer before you get really hurt. No amount of chatting with someone can solve a dangerous situation. This horse needs alot of ground work, serious ground work before you should ever get on him. I don't mean just lunging. A good trainer can put some time and effort on this horse and will get him to the point that he doesn't explode with you.





I can't stress enough that you should hire a trainer and get some real time under the saddle with this horse before you go further.
Reply:get a professional and get him re-trained!
Reply:Are you scared when he starts to act up? Or even get mad?





Try to stay neutral when he does it. I started riding a really spoiled horse a few months ago, and everyone was telling me that I'd have to do ground work and take him to the trainer. BUT, I kept on riding him, and spun him in a circle when he got pushy/didnt want to do what I told him.





Of course, that was what the owner told me to do, and im not sure if this is your horse or not, but I would talk to the owners if he isnt yours.





Over the past month, he's still a bit pushy, but he's finally understanding that I am the boss, and Im not putting up with his stupidness.





Try not to rush things on him because you're excited, just take it slow.
Reply:i think you just need, to be a little bit calm and assertive, if you turn him out to pasture with another horse, and you go to see the other horse and he comes out and shoves it away, simply ignore him. Just keep in mind when you ride and he doesn't listen, grab the reigns and pull back on his right side to make him touch your foot, or at least get close to it, and if he misbehaves, give him a tap in between his ears, he'll give you his attention alright!
Reply:You probably aren't going to like my answer, but that never stopped me before so here goes.





First of all, a horse - especially a young horse - isn't like a bike or an ATV. You can't expect to be able to hop on and ride whenever you want and leave it alone the rest of the time. You need a relationship with that horse, and that means interacting with it, working with it, every day, whether you ride or not.





Second, it's not like a tractor either. You can't send a horse to someone else to "fix" and expect him to work great for you when you get him back. The horse needs to respect YOU, and you need to earn that respect by doing the work.





I'm guessing a little without a better description, but it sounds like your horse understands what's expected of him, he just doesn't understand WHY he should do it. How many times have you asked "why?" when you were told to do something. Sometimes, for both horse and man, the answer "because I'm the boss" suffices. But does your horse believe that you're the boss?





I also think that getting a trainer would be a good idea, but I think you need a trainer to train you, not just the horse. Find a trainer that will work with both of you and teach you how to train your horse yourself. You'll gain the horse's respect and probably others' as well. Yes, it's a lot of work. But in my opinion a relationship with the horse based on mutual respect and trust and a clear understanding of who leads and who follows is well worth it.
Reply:you need to be in controll. give him lots of little jobs to do and keep him focused on you. dont let him get away with doing what he wants when he wants or it will get worse and worse. when he does something wrong pull his head arround and make him turn a really tight circle. he'll get tired of haveing to do that and decide to behave, it'll be less work. also if he is worse fresh, lounge him a little before you get on. round pen works wonders for there respect also!!!


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