horse teeth

After failing as a horse and buggy salesman, I've decided to invent...?

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A device about six inches long with some plastic bristles attached to one end. It can be used by rubbing it back and forth across the teeth to remove food particles, thus eliminating the need to use your finger. I'm going to call it a tooth broom, is this a good idea and would you buy one??

After failing as a horse and buggy salesman, I've decided to invent...?
Yes but only if it comes in red. Oh wait, I've got an idea, why not make it in different colors so each family member can tell which one is which. And I'll invent something to put on it. Like tooth scrub.
Reply:i've got one already. sorry
Reply:I don't think it'll work. We're all born with fingers. Why would I buy something to use in it's place?
Reply:You may consider trying to market it with some sort of cleaning agent. Maybe something with a baking soda base.... Otherwise, I think your idea is doomed for failure, my finger works just fine. Good luck!

Also, you may try the name "smile scrubber"... and you can trust me, I'm the guy who came up with "hair manipulator".

Weight on my horse?

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I finally got Mo, my Arab, to the vet. WHEW! Needless to say our vet was appalled at the condition of his teeth at only 11 yrs old. She said he was probably a "grain baby"(?). His teeth looked like a roller coaster and it would take us at least 4 years to flatten them out. She did what she could and he can at least eat and will hopefully get more nutrition.

I need to get at least 70-80 lbs on him before winter hits. She said to feed hom more SafeChoice but I have heard some other suggestions on here for fattening him up.

Heard about beet pulp....what is that?

Weight on my horse?
Beet pulp is what is left over after they extract the sugar from sugar beet. It's dried and sold as animal feed.

It is very good for putting weight on horses and keeping them warm through winter but it must be soaked before feeding as it swells up. The length of time you need to soak it varies on the type - you can buy it in pellets, flakes or shreds. The one I use has to be soaked for 12 hours. Generally horses love it.

Don't give them the water you soak it in though as it will have a high sugar content and can make them fizz up fast.

Easi Beet costs more, soaks in 10-15 minutes but the horses don't think it's as nice ( well, mine don't anyway.)

BTW numerous people I know have successfully used unsoaked sugar beet as rat bait - it tastes good, they eat it and die.
Reply:Here is an article on beat pulp, it may be a good alternative since your horse has dental problems.
Reply:I've used Nutrena Empower to put weight on a horse. It is a supplement with a very high fat content. But keep in mind, this is fat, not muscle. If you want muscle, you need more protein. Do not change the diet suddenly -- do it gradually over at least a week.
Reply:Below is some info on beet pulp from equisearch.com (some may be useful)...i would try and add oil to his food , linseed, soya, corn, vegetable...i know a tb who keeps weight horribly...oil added to feeds helped. as did weight gain mix...good luck

Beet pulp contains lots of fermentable fiber and is fairly easy for horses to digest. It is often incorporated into "complete" or "high fiber" commercial concentrates as a source of fiber and some horse owners feed it as a separate "mash" for a variety of reasons, one of the most common being the belief that it is high calorie and will help horses gain weight.

However, beet pulp is not high calorie--it has only slightly more calories than good quality hay and less than an equivalent weight of oats. Beet pulp does contain about 10 percent protein, 0.8 percent calcium and 0.5 percent phosphorus, making it a more "balanced" source of energy and fiber than the more traditional wheat bran (15 percent protein, 0.06 percent calcium, 1.3 percent phosphorus). The high fiber content may "normalize" fermentation in the large colons, resulting in more efficient "digestion" over all, which may be why many "hard keeper" horses that have a significant portion of their grain concentrates replaced with beet pulp seem to maintain better body condition. It has been used to replace over 50% of the forage in horse's rations without adverse effects when fed with other balanced concentrates.

An enduring concern about beet pulp is that if you feed it to a horse dry, it will swell up after it is eaten and cause choke or colic. While some horses have choked after being fed shredded beet pulp, a fairly large university study did not document this problem. This is a good way to encourage increased water intake, especially in the winter. Pelleted, extruded or shredded beet pulp product need to be soaked for old horses and/or those with severe dental problems.
Reply:I have put some websites for you to look at:

This is by far the best one:

http://www.equussource.com/articles/nutr...

Good luck with fattening hinm up! Also talk to your vet about vitamin supplement for your horse.
Reply:You can feed soaked sugar beet and boiled barley is also good for adding weight. You can use just regular corn oil added to the food (same as what you cook with) and just a drizzle over the food is enough. Too much and you could give him the runs. Canola oil can also be used and doesn't have such a laxative effect.
Reply:Corn Oil not veg. oil. It works the best because of the calories. Other common sources of fat include rice bran, linseed, sunflower seeds, full fat soybeans and coconut meal (copra meal). Rice bran is an excellent product for improving body condition of thin horses because it is a good combination of rice oil and highly digestible fiber. Rice bran can be added to the regular grain to increase the caloric density of the ration. Linseed, sunflower seeds and other seeds provide fat in the diet. However, a problem does arise when feeding vast amounts of seeds. As quantities of seeds fed increases, consumption will frequently slow sometimes to the point of total refusal. Roasted soybeans are also great in small quantities but will increase the protein percentage of the diet too much if fed in larger amounts. A high fat diet is a MUST tool for achieving weight gain in a skinny horse. Normally horses have no problem digesting fat as long as it is introduced gradually into the diet. Dietary fat works best when fed in conjunction with grain and/or highly digestible fiber sources like good quality hay.

I hope this helps..... a little food for thought!! LOL
Reply:Good to know you made it to the vet and back!

I have used Weight Builder on my horses. It is a supplement and in 30 days my horse was fat! Good stuff. Expensive but good. I am taking my ole man to get his teeth done tomorrow, not really looking forward to it as I don't know if they have ever been floated!

I can't comment on beet pulp or SafeChoice. Empower is good but read the protien and fat levels. It is high in energy but not so high for getting fat on one.

Use Corn Oil, you can get the store brand. I use those medicine cups that come with Peptobismol or cough meds. Just fill to the top and pour over the feed. I would not use more then that because your horse will get the runs. Not only will this help get weight on him but his coat and hooves will really start lookin good. If you feed corn oil before they start to shed, it will speed up shedding and you will be done with it really fast. Nice slick ponies! I would not feed him senior feed. That feed is geared to keep weight on one, not to build it up. Feed something like Strategy or Omolene 300 or 200.

Good luck and let us know how it turns out!
Reply:I don't know much about beet pulp, never have used it. I am learning from your answerers links though -good question.

I do however want to mention caution on feeding the corn, vegy, soy, etc. oil thing. "Some" horses get very gassy from it. ( I know this from personal experience) My TB for example, collics hard from it (he is a big baby though).

Anyway, just thought I would share so no surprises.
Reply:okay first i was told by a horse nutrionalist that beet bulp is more of a laxative for horses like the psyllium perfect example the answer you were given stating its high in fiber..... well what happens if you eat too much fiber???? i gave a horse beet pulp once and all it did was give him the runs!!! i feed it to him just as suggested and so i called my nutrionalist friend and that is when he had told me about it being like psyllium. you could try to feed him rice bran about a 16 oz. coffee can per day split in half give half for breakfast and half with dinner.... you could try the senior feed by purina its a very soft feed but be careful as some horses tend to get hot with the sweet feeds like that so just keep an eye on him make sure it doesnt make him crazy hot!! you could also give him a light lunch since horses are grazing animals by nature you could give him a 3-way hay(oat,wheat,%26amp;barley) if he is unable to chew the hay cuz of his teeth you could also give him the alfalfa in the pellet form, like the thoroughbred blend, that is a complete pellet and it also has extra vitamins and good stuff in it for them!!! as with any new feeding program or introducing your horse to a new feed plz be carefull and gradually introduce them to what you are starting them on. i do know the rice bran and senior work i have had to fatten up 3 horses that i rescued a few yrs back and it worked!!! i gave them the rice bran and senior with source one in a bucket with there alfalfa for breakfast and dinner and than for lunch they got a half of a flake of the 3-way hay!!! good luck to you and your horse!!!
Reply:When I first got my horse so was about 200# under weight. My vet told me to feed 25# of alfalfe meal to her and let her eat it free feed till she finishes it, then when she finishes it to dump the other 25# in her feeder. I tryed this and it took about a month for her to finish the alfalfa meal, but she put 200# on. It worked great and she loved it.

If your horse is a hard keeper and wont keep the weight on I would suggest giving Mo a coffee can full of the alfalfa meal and adding a supplement called Cool Calories. This combo works really well for my hard keeper.

Good Luck!!
Reply:i think you've got lots of answers on what beet pulp is and whats in it but i have to say i dont really find it that good for putting on weight i find it as a temporary filler upper lol nice termonology. cuz i mean you have to soak it in water so its basically filling them up real nice but theres not loads of calories in it.

try a higher percentage of pellets that has molasses in it and add canola oil to it to help it stick to the ribs. thats how i fattened up my mare, with good hay many times during the day, they can only use so much at one time!
Reply:also you can use Calf manna it is like a powder and horses love it just take a handfull and put it on there feed ....you should see a big change quickly and it make there hair shine as well.

God and dinosaurs?

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Okay, why are creationists willing to give the bible the benefit of the doubt when it doesn't say anything about dinosaurs but they won't extend the same courtesy to evolution for gaps in the fossil record? Gaps which get filled often, i.e. horse teeth? Whale skulls?

God and dinosaurs?
Because they have been taught that their's is the only absolute truth and anything contrary, no matter how logical it is, should not be listened to.
Reply:They talk about leviathans in the bible, and the animals before
Reply:The bible talks about huge animals and beasts
Reply:God does speak of dinosours. but they are called beasts of the earth. Scientists called them dinosours, not God.,

Genesis 1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

Defination of the word beast-From an unused root (probably meaning to be mute); properly a dumb beast; especially any large quadruped or animal
Reply:if you study the first verses of genises you will realize that God did in fact create dinosaurs
Reply:Job 3:8

8 May those curse it who curse the day,

Those who are ready to arouse Leviathan .

NKJV

Job 41:1-8

"Can you draw out Leviathan with a hook,

Or snare his tongue with a line which you lower?

2 Can you put a reed through his nose,

Or pierce his jaw with a hook?

3 Will he make many supplications to you?

Will he speak softly to you?

4 Will he make a covenant with you?

Will you take him as a servant forever?

5 Will you play with him as with a bird,

Or will you leash him for your maidens?

6 Will your companions make a banquet of him?

Will they apportion him among the merchants?

7 Can you fill his skin with harpoons,

Or his head with fishing spears?

8 Lay your hand on him;

Remember the battle —

Never do it again!

NKJV

Ps 74:14

14 You broke the heads of Leviathan in pieces,

And gave him as food to the people inhabiting the wilderness.

NKJV

Isa 27:1

In that day the LORD with His severe sword, great and strong,

Will punish Leviathan the fleeing serpent,

Leviathan that twisted serpent;

And He will slay the reptile that is in the sea.

NKJV

Job 40:15-18

15 "Look now at the behemoth , which I made along with you;

He eats grass like an ox.

16 See now, his strength is in his hips,

And his power is in his stomach muscles.

17 He moves his tail like a cedar;

The sinews of his thighs are tightly knit.

18 His bones are like beams of bronze,

His ribs like bars of iron.

NKJV
Reply:Because you evolutionist but together bones and say "this is a newlly discovered creature," but all it was was a bunch of bones put together, and the truth is truth, God is God and He created all life, gave life a law we broke that law and now we need a savior, that savior is Jesus Christ, to intersede on our behalf to God so that we can be forgiven of our sins and recieve eternal life.
Reply:The bible is an interesting piece of litterature. It is part of many middle eastern tales and legends . It is a work of fiction, a creation of men.

Dinosaurs were fascinating animals that populated the Earth a long time ago. Remains are comonly found in many different places. They existed and were part of evolution.
Reply:Who said Dinosaurs was not in the bible?

Go open your bible and look on JOb 40:15-24.

It is written in NKJV, that God created 'Behemoth' who is a powerfull creature known by his strength who have tail like cedar, does it resemblance to Brontosaurs to you?

and Open Job 41:1-12. In the bible also mentioned 'Leviathan' who out of his mouth go burning lights, have an scale like armor, flame from his mouth, all of this is the description of dinosaurs to me.

Why Bible didn't mention any 'Dinosaurs' name? Lol offcourse because book of Job is written even before english is found.

And why all this beast is now gone? THe best conclusion is when there is a flood in NOah time that wipe away all the dinosaurs and make them as a fossil. (but this is just only my conclusion:P)
Reply:So the Bible doesn't mention dinosaurs.

It doesn't mention alot of animals.

It doesn't even mention water fawcetts and newspapers.

What shall we conclude?

Let's conclude the Bible is a book with a theme and the writers stuck to theme ....like good writers do.
Reply:Who is saying that the Bible does not talk about dinosaurs?

Read it for youself: Genesis 1:20-24

And God went on to say: “Let the waters swarm forth a swarm of living souls and let flying creatures fly over the earth upon the face of the expanse of the heavens.” And God proceeded to create the great sea monsters and every living soul that moves about, which the waters swarmed forth according to their kinds, and every winged flying creature according to its kind. And God got to see that [it was] good. With that God blessed them, saying: “Be fruitful and become many and fill the waters in the sea basins, and let the flying creatures become many in the earth.” And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, a fifth day.

And God went on to say: “Let the earth put forth living souls according to their kinds, domestic animal and moving animal and wild beast of the earth according to its kind.” And it came to be so. And God proceeded to make the wild beast of the earth according to its kind and the domestic animal according to its kind and every moving animal of the ground according to its kind. And God got to see that [it was] good.

This was the fifth day or creative period, can you name all the kind of animals? Could it be dinosaurs included?
Reply:If you are looking for answers to this bible question, look at the book of Job. Job and his friends are in deep discussion over matters like on this site. Chapters 39-till the end of the book.

It begins with, ""Who is this that darkens my counsel with words without knowledge? Brace yourself like a man; I will question you, and you shall answer me. "Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation? Tell me, if you understand. Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it?

Chapter 40 15-24 gives a great description of an animal...

"Look at the behemoth, which I made along with you and which feeds on grass like an ox. What strength he has in his loins, what power in the muscles of his belly! His tail sways like a cedar; the sinews of his thighs are close-knit. His bones are tubes of bronze, his limbs like rods of iron. He ranks first among the works of God, yet his Maker can approach him with his sword. The hills bring him their produce, and all the wild animals play nearby. Under the lotus plants he lies, hidden among the reeds in the marsh. The lotuses conceal him in their shadow; the poplars by the stream surround him. When the river rages, he is not alarmed; he is secure, though the Jordan should surge against his mouth. Can anyone capture him by the eyes, or trap him and pierce his nose?

The tail is like a cedar. This is no hippo my friend. The river rages and he is not alarmed. This is a massive create inwhich I believe is a dino.
Reply:I'm trying to figure out if there were two or seven brontosaurs, stegasauruses, triceratops, and some of the largers herbivores on the ark. There would have been only two T. rex. There isn't enough room on the ark for every living species, and the dinosaurs make the problem worse. It's clear they were there, since God commanded "every thing that creepeth upon the earth" and Noah obeyed.

men dress shoes

BBC programme, 'Any Dream Will Do' ?

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I reckon that Lee's (the one with black curly hair) the best. Great singer and drop dead gorgeous!

Keith should be next to go in my opinion (the one with the horse teeth - not for that reason though). Too young.

Who does anyone else think should win?

BBC programme, 'Any Dream Will Do' ?
Personally, i love Lewis, although he is not your sterotypical Joseph!..

Lee looks the part definatly!! i think he should win!
Reply:Yeah, i agree- Lee IS a great singer and actor!
Reply:I like that quiet guy,can't remember his name, the one that works in that porter cabin.
Reply:Nooooo, I think keith should win. Nexty to go should be lewis...hasnt got a strong enough voice for my liking.

I dont really want Lee to win purely because he seems so full of himself it would be good to see him knocked down and someone who had never sung in a musical to win.
Reply:All of them are talented...

But Daniel.

He can sing, dance, act and he also looks like a Joseph.
Reply:Yes i agree Lee is brilliant, but............ i also like keith, he has a fantastic voice for musicals, yeah he's young, but what does that matter, i think he's fab!! Theres not many of them i dont like except Ben, he should have went out weeks ago!!
Reply:Lee's fantastic, I got shivers down my spine when he sang last night, but I'm also warming to Craig, I didn't rate him much at first but he takes all the criticism and advice on board each week, goes away, works hard and the improvements are always noticeable, I think he stands a good chance.

I used to really love John Barrowman but I'd like to slap him with some rhubarb at times, he's quite arrogant
Reply:I want Ben or Lee to win they are both great I really wan't pig man Craig out he is too ugly and orange to be Joseph
Reply:Lee looks the part, but I much prefer Daniel. He's gorgeous!
Reply:i agree Lee is the best i don't like Keith or Lewis and I'm not to keen on Ben i like

1:Lee

2:Daniel

3:Craig

but for me its Lee to win
Reply:No, I love Keith! But I want Lee to win for reasons of my own.

Daniel is also fantastic.

HTH : )

Did Hilary Duff get a nose job?

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Yeah rhinoplasty...her nose sure looks different. She looks like she has a face lift. And horse teeth...ok veneers. And anorexia...

I'm not trying to be superficial, but honestly, I miss Lizzie McGuire. Not Lindsay Lohan look-a-like. What happened to them...?

This isn't what a girl looks like nor what a girl should look like. ***IT'S NOT HOT IT'S VILE!!!!!***

Did Hilary Duff get a nose job?
The question should be what hasn't she gotten done.
Reply:Somehow a lot of Hollywood people get lured into thinking they would look better with plastic surgery, when in my humble opinion, their look is what got them to Hollywood.

She probably did have a nose job and more.

It's sad....and dangerous, and unnecessary.
Reply:Yeah her new videos scare me..acting all emo. I still have my set of Lizzie McGuire books that I bought when I was little. :)
Reply:It's a possiblity! She could add it to the rest of her that's fake! I mean I love her but those teeth caps the nose job that's not the person we grew to love! I miss the old Hilary Duff! I want her back.
Reply:and she got a face lift
Reply:NO OMG Hilary Duff is SOOOOOO pretty and amazing and talented OMG i love hilary duff. She is my inspurasion!!! She is soooooo cool!

Who's the ugliest celeb that everyone thinks is gorgeous?

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I think Reese Witherspoon is not that great. Everyone just raves about her beauty. She has a hideous underbite and horse teeth. She's "cute" but not ravishing. Also, Lindsay Lohan looks like an anorexic crack whore. I never thought she was pretty. Who do you think is not good looking yet everyone raves about?

Who's the ugliest celeb that everyone thinks is gorgeous?
Paris HIlton.
Reply:Tara Reid or Paris Hilton.
Reply:I have to admit, I have never seen what is so great about Julia Roberts. She's an attractive person; I guess it's just a matter of personal taste. There is just something about the characters she plays that puts me off. Don't know what.
Reply:Paris Hilton and Britney Spears. They are complete freaks.
Reply:Tom cruise,mel gibson,johnny depp...
Reply:George Cloony
Reply:Pamela Anderson! she's nothing but a pair of big, fake, nasty breast.... i bet if she hadn't had breast enlargement, she wouldn't even be famous!
Reply:Justin Timberlake and Pam Anderson.
Reply:Paris Hilton....I mean, except for her wallet, what does this woman have to offer? She is not lovely.
Reply:paris hiton and zack effron
Reply:Cher and Paris Hilton.
Reply:Angelina Jolie

Monstrous
Reply:Paris and her sister Nikki, Julia Roberts (love the King of the Hill joke "A horse is a horse of course, of course"), and Jennifer Lopez looked like a man before money came along.
Reply:OMG, the two you mentioned are the ones I was thinking about...Id have to put Nicole Richie in there too.

Are people blind or what?
Reply:You don't have a pic of yourself on your Y!A profile, so how do we know you're not just some bitter "ugly" person yourself?

Looks are fine and all, but they don't last forever and they won't get you into heaven.
Reply:I don't find anything attractive about Tom Cruise. Mel Gibson is an arrogant winkled up old ***hole.
Reply:Julia Roberts and Sandra Bullock
Reply:Nicole Richie and Paris Hilton
Reply:paris hilton and tara reid
Reply:Lindsay Lohan, Scarlett Johanson.
Reply:orlando bloom, reese witherspoon too, angelina jolie she looks like a alien.
Reply:Paris or Tori Spelling
Reply:Scarlett Johansson, Allison Hannigan, Tara Reid, Jaime Pressly, Keira Knightly, Jennifer Aniston, Cameron Diaz, Eva Longoria, Justin Timberlake, Chris Brown, the list goes on...
Reply:Nelly Furtado. She is one ugly slag. Cannot BELIEVE anyone likes her.
Reply:either Paris Hilton or Lindsay Lohan.. i think Nicole Richie has a pretty face but her body is too thin
Reply:Reese Whiterspoon
Reply:Paris Hilton or Nicole Richie, though I've never heard it claimed that they are gorgeous.

Jennifer Love-Hewitt.

Never understood what anyone saw in Mel Gibson and Kevin Costner, either.
Reply:Brittany Spears. She looks like a street whore.
Reply:justin timberlake to me he is the uggliest and i hate his music
Reply:johnny depp
Reply:Hilary Swank, Scarlett Johannson

Made in Gods image?

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i cannot percieve how man can be made in Gods image

i look at my own deteriorating body and consider its many faults

I look at the skin growths, the irregularities, the failing

i consider my youth and my bodys failure to meet

even a small amount of beauty requirements,

big belly

no butt

fatt hips

no boobs

bow legs

big feet

knobby knees

horse teeth

big lips

pug nose

small eyes

hair where there shouldn't be

i look at man kind in pictures and see

an almost garbage heap representation

haggard miskept mishapen, foul in appearance and foul in smell, and foul in deed and thought

in all aspects foul and most often...hopeless

There are men and women of every race who look like Gods

there are those who think like Gods

there are those who act like God

and there are those who love like God

they are very far and few between.

more often than not

i recoil from the entirety of mankind and the visage I see in the mirror

and something within me says

how can man be made in Gods image

and represent such apathy, unkemptness, and regrettable miscreation

how can this be Gods image

is the fall from grace so destructive that it turns man into this

tortured gargoyle representation of God

and i can't wrap my mind or heart around it

my understanding is too limited.

Where what when and how can I find an exact representation of man

made in Gods image,

does such a thing exist

or is it a mythical what was once.

it disturbs me

because those I am to have mercy upon

repulse me completely,

their mind, their heart, their vision, their bodies

fill me with a nihilistic horror

wrapped in twisted hopeless dread.

Made in Gods image?
your funny

got one head, two arms, two legs, and a body

thats close enough for me :)
Reply:I think it's more likely that God was created in the image of man. Why else would he have such a violent temper?
Reply:God gave us a Spirit thats what it means in the images of God to me. We have a soul.
Reply:You have to understand that we are made in Gods image, but when Adam ate of the fruit, that brought in sickness and diesese, because Satan then became ruler of this world, so the corruption that he was came into the world.
Reply:If that's true - he must be well hung - look at John Holmes.
Reply:you are made in God's image, the upkeep is all up to you. and from listening to all that babbling drivel its clear you haven't been getting your oil changes regularly.
Reply:God ISN'T A PHYSICAL MATERIAL BEING...I THINK WHEN IT SAID IN HIS OWN IMAGE I THINK IT IS THE IMAGE OF THE SOUL, OR LIGHT, COMPASSION AND EMOTIONS AND REASONING, CONSCIOUSNESS...ETC IT THINK IT IS A SPIRITUAL IMAGE NOT SO MUCH A PHYSICAL.
Reply:You are looking only at your shell, your body.. You are more than that. You are mind as well, and spirit too. All three of these are needed to make you, You.. You can't be you without your mind. You can't be you if your body is not there. And you can't be you without some spiritual being... You are a triune person. Three that make up one.. That is how you are in the image of God.. He is also 3 that are one... IHS Jim
Reply:people who created god were not very creative, so created god in human image, well atheists have better imagination-just think about the invisible pink unicorn or the flying spaghetti monster!
Reply:Yet another person who apparently believes beauty can only exist on a magazine cover. You know what? Get some SELF ESTEEM! Stop worrying about being pretty, you obviously we're not born with a movie star forte, so live your life as a way you like. And maybe god is ugly, so what? beauty is subjective, no?
Reply:Spiritual image not physical. I think people like to think God looks like us physically. Once again, man creating God in his image. God is Spirit. Spirit is not a corporeal being.
Reply:Rev.3:14;

John 1:3,5,24;

Col.1:15-17;

The one we know as Christ Jesus is the first creation created in the image of

God and a heaven being same as God. Gen.1:26; God said,"Let us make man in our image, after our likeness." We are born in the imperfections of sin and dying from birth so that death and desease can happen any time, as we are the offsprings of Adam and innocent of all this. Christ Jesus will save all from this in the time frame given, we can know all but the day and the hour that this process begans. 1Cor.15:22-28,51-53;
Reply:“God proceeded to create the man in his image, in God’s image he created him; male and female he created them.” (Gen. 1:27) Being made in God’s image does not mean that we were made so as to look like God, but, that God put in the first humans the potential, the ability to exercise His own qualities. They became God's children. And most children to to act like their father or mother. In fact, sometimes a son is so much like his father that he is called “a chip off the old block.” And so it should be with us. Remember we are urged to “become imitators of God, as beloved children.” (Eph. 5:1)
Reply:Lighten up on yourself.

Yes you and I are made in God's image we are designed to be able to fellowship with God unlike the animals. Did you know that the Bible says that Jesus was not good looking at all? It describes Jesus as someone you would totally ignore in a crowd. The thing that drew people to Jesus is His love and concern for people from all walks of life. His GLORIFIED body IS beautiful as will be yours.
Reply:You are still able to reason, be articulate, and be creative. So indeed, you are still in the image of God, though marred by sin. Indeed, fall from grace is very destructive. But note: "Image of God" is not limited to the physical. Bible says, "God is spirit..." (John 4:24) and not limited by space. You are not your body.

As to "exact representation", look to Jesus who is said to be "the radiance of God's glory and exact representation of the Father" (Hebrews 11:3). In him alone there's salvation...Not only of your soul, but also of your body in resurrection (Romans 8:22-23; 1 Corinthians 15:53-57).

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Who Album will sale better in Sept. Kanye west or 50 cent?

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50 said his album is going to crush kanye's. i think kanye album is going to crush 50"s. i dont like 50 cent, he tries to make money by dissin' other artist, he cant even open his mouth wide enough to rap with those big horse teeth. kanye tell stories with his music, and he makes nice beats. SO WHO DO YOU THINK WILL SALE MORE WHEN THERE CD DROP.

Who Album will sale better in Sept. Kanye west or 50 cent?
I like them both, but I believe Kanye will outsell 50. He is a very talented young man who can back up his ********* with skill, personality and intelligence.
Reply:Kanye will definetly outsell fiddy. Sure fiddy had most cd sales of tha year wit his last cd but that was bfore he was caught lip syncing. Now a lot of people hate him fer that. below is tha vid of him lip syncing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzuDzhXA4...
Reply:Like a Thousand people already asked this. Kanye is going to sell more
Reply:I am personally digging Kanye West's new album,but I think 50 Cent will ultimately sell more records.
Reply:i think 50 because he was said to have way more collaboration on his CD like with artists
Reply:even tho i hate 50 he will sell more!!!!........

BUT Kanye's will be way better
Reply:I think west will do way better.

Plus I can't stand 50
Reply:Anyone with a brain would say Kanye. 50 Cent has way too many haters (including me) and Kanye West has a bigger fan base anyway.

Y&R Fans- Does anybody else miss the old Colleen and the old Victoria?

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I really like the old Colleen. She was really pretty and talented. This new one is kinda fat and not all that pretty.

I loved the old Vicky! The one on now is ugly with huge gappy horse teeth. I know she Thad Luckinbill's r/l wife, but geeze, couldn't they have found anyone better?

Y%26amp;R Fans- Does anybody else miss the old Colleen and the old Victoria?
I don't remember the old colleen. The one that is on right now is leaving the show. Her last air date will be around July 30th. There is going to be a new Colleen. I heard that they are getting rid of the current Colleen and replacing her because she has gained so much weight. I don't care what people say, the girl is definitely overweight. People are just not honest about their weight these days. Maybe this is why they are saying 2/3 of Americans are overweight and over 20% of Americans are obese. When you are on the number one rated show, you should definately care about what you look like. Some people will say that it had nothing to do with her weight but I feel that it is obvious that her weight is why she was let go considering the fact that the new Colleen is Lily's size.

I also agree with you about Victoria. I liked Heather Tom much better. I also look at her teeth every time she talks. She is always messy looking. She looks like she never brushes her hair even. Not a very professional look for an professional business woman. This Victoria has been on the show before she married J.T. So, she didn't get the job because of him. I don't even think that she dated him until after she had been on the show for a little while. I personally don't like her and J.T together. Their scenes together bore me greatly.
Reply:I really hate the new victoria! I think it's the teeth.
Reply:me, me,me...I miss them both. I am getting used to the new girls, but the new Colleen is no longer on the show...I miss the old Vicki
Reply:I prefer the old actors too but I don't think Colleen is fat...She has a healthy body type that women need to look up to.
Reply:I don't Colleen is all that fat, she is a normal body type for a woman. I do miss the old actress they had for those roles. I think they need to fix up Victoria then maybe she will look better.

Also they can get rid of Lily!!!!
Reply:Yes I miss the old Victoria, Heather Tom. She was the best and no one can play that role as good as she could. Colleen is just like Mac. They keep changing her so I gave up hope on it. But the current one is not fat by normal standards which is about a size 8.
Reply:OMG....this colleen is leaving?? I hate that! She is not FAT by any means. Now her mom Tracy OH YEAH. Colleen has a nice figure and should be proud of that. No one has the perfect body and others should look up to her. I notice she does feel self conscience of her body on the show by the clothes she wears. I hate that. She is equally as pretty as the last colleen....much more mature looking.

As for vicki. DONT like this one. I honestly dont think the old one would even be suitable for Bradley Carlton. I dont think she would put up with as much BS. The new one is fraile and weak looking...so has she turned the character into. Its sad!
Reply:Actually, I think the current Colleen has a prettier face than the last Col, and also this Colleen has beautiful hair. I'm not going to comment on her weight, because although I'm back in a size 6, I was once in a 12. Weight happens, we're women!

Yes to the old Victoria though...
Reply:I prefer the new Colleen because she looks like an adult,the other one looked way too young.

As for Victoria,I like the new one better.The old Victoria was always in a bad mood.This Victoria seems more laid back.
Reply:I was getting to like this colleen and in no way is she fat I used to be a size 2 but now not so much lol... and I believe she has a nice figure As for Victoria I havent liked this one since she started and would love to see Heather Tom come back,she played Victoria with spunk and fire plus she was pretty and her clothes fit her age. This one they dress like she is 60!!
Reply:i miss Heather Tom :(
Reply:I don't think that the current Colleen is fat and ugly. I think she is really pretty and as far as size is concerned, i think people put to much emphasize on people's weight and not their ability to do their job well. However, I think she is of normal size, truly everyone is not and cannot be a size 2, and the sooner people accept and realize that the better off we will all be. IMO if we all looked alike the world would be boring. Yet, I do miss the old Colleen and truly miss the old Victoria. This new chick does not look a child of Victor and Nikki Newman, and she sure does not look like the Victoria who didn't take mess from anyone, nor does she appear to be Brash-N-Sassy!
Reply:old Victoria yes, I can't even remember the old Coleen.
Reply:yes

Do you think carma took Anna Nicole Smith son? For her being a greedy, money hungry two timing tramp?

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Trim Spa Baby, look at my horse teeth!

Do you think carma took Anna Nicole Smith son? For her being a greedy, money hungry two timing tramp?
The authorities are looking into this one and there were only 3 people in the room...she never did get the money from her senior husband...maybe she had a pile of insurance on the boy.........
Reply:jealous are we? Women have a gift and are designed to use that gift...deal with it.
Reply:That's terrible. He died on accident....God doesn't "punish" people like that.....

Oh, and Karma is spelled with a K not a C.
Reply:Now WHY would HER Karma Affect Her Son! He's was his OWN Person!
Reply:WOW how freakin cold man. she may be what you say but she just lost her kid. have some respect. have some compassion.
Reply:That is one nasty, heartless thing to say.
Reply:Stop being mean, no parent should loose a child, at a time like this, one should forgive ones actions, people say that she is a great mother under all that theatrical act!!
Reply:u r a beast! Don't say that! he died.. for reasons not yet disclosed but even if Anna does deserve some karma this defiently would be taking it wayy too far and her son should not have to pay for anything she did.
Reply:I don't know. Do you think God made Dick Cheney's daughter a lesbian? For being a greedy, money hungry, two-terming tramp?
Reply:No, and that's just mean to think that way.
Reply:I always say what goes around comes around. She married a man who was one step away from his grave and he did die which probably made her happy coz...cha-ching she gets some of his millions. For all the craziness and obscene things she's done there is a payback and that's...........the life of her son. Unfortunately, she is a dumb twit who likes to get naked to get noticed. You say the death of her son was karma I say it's destiny just waiting to happen.
Reply:Apparently you do not have children and if you do god help them!! even if you do not like her that is a cold hearted thing to say! I hope karma (thats the correct spelling) dosnt bite you in the ***!!
Reply:Why do people come on here being so judgemental. Just answer the question or move on.

When I heard about that I got to admit Karma was the first thing that popped in my head. No matter how rich you get, life has a way of smacking you down if you arent living right

Who Album will sale better in Sept. Kanye west or 50 cent?

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Is anyone (else) annoyed by Everyday Italian's Giada De Laurentiis on Food Network?

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Everyone talks about how Rachael Ray is "annoying" but OMG...THIS woman is SO MUCH WORSE (to me)! Does she HAVE to show her horse teeth smile after EVERYTHING she says? Does she have to add freshly grated Parmesan to EVERYTHING? Does she have to explain that you have to clean the BACK of your micro-plane EVERYTIME you zest something? DAD-GUM she irks me...anyone else feel this way?

Oh yeah, and Barefoot Contesa w/her Man Hands and the way she says 'fabulous' at LEAST 5 times during each show with her 'paid / fake' friends eating supper w/her in the Hamptons...UGH!

Is anyone (else) annoyed by Everyday Italian's Giada De Laurentiis on Food Network?
She has a huge bobble head! Seriously, her head is too big for her tiny body, it freaks me out. Also, I get annoyed with her voice...not sure what it is, but something just irks me.
Reply:LOL....Too funny! I agree....Sometimes they all sound like they are making sexual inuendos.....haha
Reply:if they annoy you so much why do you watch their shows? i'm guessing you still watch them because you seem to know them pretty well.
Reply:Nope.

Giada's a babe.
Reply:i love them all. but they are making me get fat....
Reply:LMAO! How about the way she has to say spaghetti with an Italian accent! I CANNOT STAND HER!
Reply:i love watching them all....why watch it if it gets u annoyed?its an italian cooking show....of course theres gona be parmesan!!
Reply:She hasn't annoyed me yet, but I don't watch her show too much. They all seem to have their own "phrases" and things they do practically every show. I'd probably get annoyed if I watched it alot more than I do.

Why people supports Hillary Clinton when ..?

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She is a hypocrite, fake, a republican with a mask that wanted the troops to stay and then she realized that was not on the bases of the democratic party, she supported WORLDWIDE HUMILLATION when bill clinton cheated on her, there she showed how stupid she is, she only did that because if not her plans of making to the presidency would get ruined. She showed how obsessed she is with power at the point she supported that kind of humillation. I mean she criticize Obama of lack of experience haha and she, does she has experience ? maybe a little bit more, but on cheating, taking stupid decisions and making promises and not accomplish them ! and then the poor dwarf, horse - teeth suggests Obama to make a duo (of course she being the president) when she is loosing haha how clumsy is that, Obama is winning and the dwarf thinks he is going to accept, people open your eyes and stop supporting this kind of hypocrites. Obama, you will be the next president !

Why people supports Hillary Clinton when ..?
Grammar anyone?

And you are delusional if you think Hillary Clinton is a closet republican. They have been attacking her for 20 years for goodness sakes.

Obama and Hillary both voted the same on the troop surge by the way, and Obama wasn't in any goverment position in 2002 when Bush decided to invade Iraq. Congress (and many democrats) gave Bush the authority to invade.

Since Obama always votes with democrats, I believe he would have voted the same way as most other democrats did at the time. In 2002 he was running a campaign, and I think it's clear at this point that he only says what his audience wants to hear.
Reply:Hillary is bad news. BUT, who is the lesser of two evils...Hillary or Obama?
Reply:Please learn how to write and speak properly before you post a rant.
Reply:Well you won't have to worry your sweet little head and cry no tears as the video below shows how Obama is a FALSE Christian...seriously.

It will be on the news in 24 hours its on youtube below.
Reply:I have a uterus and women love to vote for anyone with a uterus.

Never mine that I am a lying, scheming, race baiter....I will always have my white women vote.

Thank you Satan!
Reply:Hmmmmm i bet you feel much better now don't you ? thats it rant and get it all out .....lolll
Reply:Rick A has a youtube video.... We all know that he must be correct... Because we all know EVERYTHING on youtube is correct....

you are absolutely correct... People follow Clinton BECAUSE she is a republican in disguise... The repubs want her because she will fulfill their agenda and that is what they want... They want her more than Obama because she has already been corrupted by government... She reeks of republican tactics and will attempt to do whatever it takes to get into office...
Reply:No I dont agree with you. And I think your rant is based out of hatred and not facts.
Reply:Yes, I'm agree with you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OBAMA'08

She force voters to vote for her, please open your eyes and mind stop supporting her.
Reply:You need to get your facts straight before you start your rant. Look it up, obama has waffled on that issue a lot since he made that one speech against it. They showed different clips of him saying one time that his and bushes views on the war didn't differ much, he also said that he thought that it would be a mistake and dangerous to take the troops out now, and there were other times they showed all of those clips of obama himself saying those things, not hear say. And he changed his views after he started running for president. Open your eyes. You seem to have a double standard. You judge Hillary on how she is stupid for and the reasons she stood by bill with out knowing what her reasons were. But obama followers want us to not judge obama because of the way it appears to us that he stayed at that church because he must have believed like wright does a little. You must be scared that obama will loose or you would not put such a childish rant in hear about Hillary with out having your facts right.
Reply:Please learn English before asking questions. Her faithfulness to Bill is comforting because it shows she will not flee the sinking ship if something were to happen. She has been an activist for lower cost of health insurance for children since the 1970's. She has dealt with foreign powers before and has taken a lesson from them. There is little doubt her heart is with the country.
Reply:In my opinion, neither Obama or Hilary should step foot in the white house. The democratic party is causing too much "he said she said" drama for the united states to make an educated vote. I'm not a set republican, and I'm not a set democrat. I will vote for whoever I feel can run our country the best, and who will take care of the many issues we are facing as a nation at this very moment. Hilary and Obama have shown me nothing to be impressed with, either way.
Reply:U are just as fake as she is. I personally do not support any of these two lame @ss candidates. U are a sucker for a well written speech that Obama can deliver. what makes you believe one is better than the other? U been watchin way too many Youtube videos about the presidential race, and comment of how righteous obama is. They both don't know how to take care of this country. Candidates tell everything on their power to lure such a weakling like you to believe them. Its like voting for prom queens and kings. Make promises and yet, nothing is done. The people that makes the biggest difference in this country are those who wakes up early in the morning and work till night time. They are what makes this country strong. These two people who are debating what possible changes they can make to the country are all just music to your ears its like watching american Idol. whether they win or lose they didn't really give a damn about you.

Who has better movies??? Lindsay Lohan or Hilary Duff???

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Lindsay Lindsay Lindsay!!!!! she's way better than Hilary Duff!!! Hilary Duff is fake.... She has horse-teeth.... veneers eeeoooo!!! Lindsay respects her natural beauty and the gift of nature and Hilary Duff spoils all nature- gifted things..... but by the way Lindsay's wayyy better than duff!!! Hilary Duff never writes her own songs.... Lindsay has always won awards for her movies and her movies are way better than duff's and they are very interesting!!... and hilary has been nominated for the worst actress for material girls!!!!!! and her sister haylie is also nominated for it... i wish hilary wins that award..... Lindsay rockssss!!!! go lindsay!!!!!!! u rokkk!!! so my opinion: LINDSAY LOHAN!!!

Who has better movies??? Lindsay Lohan or Hilary Duff???
lindsay lohan totally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

she has a lot of movies that are really famouse not like hilarys where they are all girly and stuff

i mean they both are talented in different ways but to me it seems like lindsay's caught my attention better than hilary

for example the movie parent trap was one of her really goooooooood movis and hilary movie was okay...

a bit boring tho

but i totally agree with you about the whole thing you go girl!!!!!!!!!
Reply:GO LINFDAAY, WHAT WOOD JUSES DO.
Reply:They both suck and better hope Dokota Fanning doesn't grow up cute because she will blow them both out the water! But if I had to choice I would say the younger Lindsey is best before she got all full of herself. Seems as she has moved backward with age and instead of gaining maturity she has lost some.
Reply:yes, you are correct.
Reply:Hilary Duff of course. I can't stand most of lindsay's movies. And her music sucks to.
Reply:OK first of all how old are you? Second of all ummm do you not know that Lindsay has been in rehab and AA for alcohol? She's a constant chain smoker and she hangs around with the wrong crowd (Paris Hilton to be exact) I'm not crazy about both of them but at least you can say that you dont hear bad things about Hilary Duff in the news. She has veneers, so what? Does that bother you?
Reply:lindsay lohan have better movies
Reply:id tell u if i had seen any of their movies and im a movie buff.. so obviously i have good reason not to have seen either of their movies ! need i say more !
Reply:Lindsay
Reply:Both are not........
Reply:Who cares about either one of them? They are both losers. . .
Reply:Lindsay

Mean Girls is a classic
Reply:neither they both are over rated
Reply:Who cares!!!!!!
Reply:they both horrible. eeeewww how can u say lindsey is better? she is ginger and frekled. hold on a minute....

hilary is also ginger and frekled isnt she?
Reply:Well, I dont like H.D too , as u said she is fake and also her voice is terribly awful !!!!

So Lindsay Lohan ROCKS , she is such a great actress and singer . She has a perfect body and of course face . She can act and sing , she is gifted (+talented) !!!!! I LOVE Lindsay !!!!!

I'm looking for the top rated Prosthodontists in CT. Are there any experiences you can share?

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My father has a heart condition due to a childhood illness (Rheumatic Fever) %26amp; recently got an infection in his gums due to neglect. He’s not one for doctors, (growing up we couldn’t afford med insurance anyway) but after 30 yrs I got him to go to the walk-in clinic. They gave him antibiotics %26amp; told him to see a dentist ASAP. His oral health is detrimental to his heart. Insurance or not, I desperately need to get him to a good dentist. Most of his teeth are missing, so he will have to get a complete set of dentures. I am looking for the best dentist in CT. I want his new dentures to look as close to natural as possible, not like horse teeth. He may also need oral tissue repair. So far my research points to seeking a Prosthodontist. Any insight, knowledge, or experience you can provide is greatly appreciated; I want to help him make the best possible decisions through this process.

I'm looking for the top rated Prosthodontists in CT. Are there any experiences you can share?
See a Periodontist to treat the gum infection. Then go to a prosthodontist.

Beauty

I met this awesome guy...?

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He is really great but the only problem is that when he smiles he looks like a horse. But I have Dentric Hippophobia - fear of horse teeth. When my bf smiles I get all panicky, can't breathe, almost black out... Is there a tactful way to tell him to stop smiling?

I met this awesome guy...?
i've found brown paper bags to be much more useful in such situations.
Reply:GIRL THERE IS NO EASY WAY TO SAY THIS BUT YO9U NEED TO GET OVER YOUR FEAR OR GET RID OF HIM JUST FOLLOW YOUR HEART
Reply:Just don't do anything that would make him happy.
Reply:if you knocked out every second tooth of his, he'd be striped like a zebra. would that help?
Reply:Uh, this seems liek something that should be on Montel williams or somthing hahahaha
Reply:Just buy him an executioner's mask and tell him you think he looks hot in it.. that way you don't have to see his teeth.
Reply:Girl, com'on be real... How can you ask a person to stop smiling? You just can't do that. Is like asking someone to stop breathing... and if you really get that feeling when you see him smile then he is not the guy for you. When you really love %26amp; like someone it's gotta be 100%... u can't like him 95% or 50%... if something of his physical features bothers you to the point of wanting to faint.... something is definately wrong... I guess you can talk to him about different options to correct his denture... "cosmetic dentistry" (braces, veneer..whatever is needed) and hang in there while in process of correcting this lil problem... but don't try to make him stop smiling or you might hurt his feelings...
Reply:Just tell him you have some kind of affliction that affects your immune system so that he has to wear one of those surgical mask things, or whatever they're called. The only problem is that you will have to wear one too so your story looks true. Good luck!
Reply:Just feed him plenty of my Milkshakes and Pies- then hide his tooth brush. He'll go from horsemouth to jack-o-lantern in no time!
Reply:Just treat him like Cr@p and he'll stop smiling all onhis own... Guys love it when we do that!
Reply:Have a couple of friends beat the b'jesus out of him, focusing on his face, and that way he gets all new teeth. I've found that a 2X4 works best for teeth removal.
Reply:Tell him you don't do *certain things* in the bedroom......

Trust me, he'll never smile again.
Reply:Make a pig snort sound everytime you laugh - then when he gets disgusted with that and finally says something - cut him a deal ;)

Need help choosing the right dentist for cosmetic and oral tissue repair?

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My father has a heart condition due to a childhood illness (Rheumatic Fever) %26amp; recently got an infection in his gums due to neglect. He’s not one for doctors, (growing up we couldn’t afford med insurance anyway) but after 30 yrs I got him to go to the walk-in clinic. They gave him antibiotics %26amp; told him to see a dentist ASAP. His oral health is detrimental to his heart. Insurance or not, I desperately need to get him to a good dentist. Most of his teeth are missing, so he will have to get a complete set of dentures. I am looking for the best dentist in CT. I want his new dentures to look as close to natural as possible, not like horse teeth. He may also need oral tissue repair. So far my research points to seeking a Prosthodontist. Any insight, knowledge, or experience you can provide is greatly appreciated; I want to help him make the best possible decisions through this process.

Need help choosing the right dentist for cosmetic and oral tissue repair?
The first thing you should know is that if it is possible to save some of his natural teeth, especially on the lower arch, you should do it. Most dentists will invite you in to look at a trial fitting before the teeth are made to see how they look and get your approval. If you want the best, you might want to see a periodontist about the gum infection. Prosthodontists are especially useful in difficult cases.

Horse bite on ribs?

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Yesterday when I was bringing in horses from turnout at the barn I work at, one of the horses I was leading in got annoyed by another running by and turned his head quickly and bit down on my rib. It was excruciating and knocked all the wind right out of me. It bruised right away. Today, it is painful and very bruised. You can see each tooth as a bruise and the middle where he chomped down is a patch of blackish purple. I called my primary, but he wasn’t in and the on call doc called in antibiotics and Tylenol/codine. I know only an x-ray would tell, but my grandmother recently broke a few of her ribs and they could do nothing but help with the pain. Yes it hurts tons especially to move, but since I’m not having bad symptoms like trouble breathing I’m hoping taking the meds and resting will heal it in time. Does it sound like it’s just a bad bruise that will heal with this care or could it have some way done more damage

Horse bite on ribs?
sounds like its just a REALLY bad bruise. . .but just to be safe, have them xray it soon. If its a punctured lung, you could be in seroius trouble if u dont fix it right away. doesnt matter if u have no trouble breathing, u can still have a punc. lung
Reply:They should have given you an x-ray. If you are not having any difficulty breathing then you should be okay. I would be concerned about a collapsed lung if you were having any breathing problems. Put some ice covered with a towel on the area 15 minutes on, 30 minutes off. It will help dissipate the bruising and swelling and ease the pain.
Reply:Apply soframycin to the affected area everyday twice or thrice and just rest.... You will get well fast.....Also get an x ray done asap....as you would then be able to defeat any other harm if atall has happened......

get well soon....

God bless you....
Reply:IF YOUR PAIN CONTINUES FOR A LONG TIME GET TEST TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVEN'T DAMAGED AN ORGAN. THEN TAKE THE OTHER HORSE TO COURT.

Who thinks Miley needs serious dental work?

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She has a big overbite and teeth the size of horse teeth. Her bottom teeth are all crooked and are all different sizes. she needs braces in my opinion. also when she talks it sounds like she stores her saliva in her mouth. look on perezhilton.com to see this one pic of her

Who thinks Miley needs serious dental work?
How petty. She's just a kid for Chrissake.
Reply:i know! her teeth are like so small!!
Reply:she needs braces, i dont care that fans would be laughing at her! i had braces when i was 10 and now i have nice teeth! i love my teeth! so straight and white!
Reply:ugh.

she looks like a horse..
Reply:me her teeth are tiny

and her bottom teeth are so messed
Reply:Yeah she has braces on the back of her teeth at the moment and if you look at photos of her a couple yrs ago and photos of her now you can see a real difference. But once her teeth are perfect she'll look gorgeous.
Reply:her teeth are worst than mine. well i just have the two front teeth crooked but she took her braces off because to many people complained on how she sounded with them so if you see recent pictures of her you can see that it's gone. wow, $7,000 down the drain but w.e she's rich.
Reply:she needs that, singing work, AND acting work.
Reply:i no right! all of that is true true true! if she has so much money why doesnt she get braces??
Reply:i do have to agree with u on the bottom teeth, but everything else seems okay.
Reply:Yeah, I hate being so judgemental but she has the money...and her teeth dont look very healthy. She's an ok singer, and pretty, its just that she doesnt seem to want to make obvious improvements for herself. Its not vainity, its care for yourself..its not like she'd be getting a new face. I'd love to have enough money like her to fix my teeth, who wouldn't?
Reply:haha yesss. yesssss. YESSSSS. =D
Reply:yeah i agree with u. she needs to see an orthodontist. im suprised she hasent yet cuz shes like 15.
Reply:Actually, she got them fixed. But they still look huge and almost wost than they were before.
Reply:u have no right to make fun of her just because of her teeth and she does have braces.y r people so ******* mean.thats low even for u.wut if u had bad teeth and somebody wrote that about u.i bet she has a better voice than u do.u r probably just making fun of her because u have no life.ha
Reply:she needs braces, headgear, retainers, well basically she has really bad teeth
Reply:I know, I agree as well.

I'm 15 too but I got my braces already but she needs them more than I do.

Her gums show way to much.
Reply:lol, i know

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What is better, caps or veneers?

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my boyfriend wants to get his teeth fixed (all of them) and his family and i were discussing which is better. financially, and appearance. he's afraid if he gets veneers that his teeth will look like horse teeth like hillary duff. which is better to get. keep in mind that he's having his whole mouth done.

What is better, caps or veneers?
it depends on what kind of shape his teeth are in. crowns (caps) are better for protecting teeth so if he has alot of fillings or weak enamel, crowns are going to be better. veneers are generally used just to change the appearance of teeth. they are kind of like press on finger nails, they just cover the front where as a crown covers the whole tooth. veneers are generally a little more expensive but not by much. my suggestion would be to see a dentist for a consultation. it may work best to crown some and put veneers on some. a good cosmetic dentist should be able to make them look natural no matter what u decide to go with. hope this helps
Reply:well, depending on what shape your boyfriend's mouth is in (i.e. past fillings and current needs) they may do a combo. veneers are not for molars, crowns would be best for those. if he is a smoker, he should stop because it can cause the gum tissue to recede (shrink and show the root surface). i've seen patients that had veneers placed and smoked and they had to have them redone just for the fact that the gums had receded and they looked terrible.

he needs to listen and discuss with his dentist what would be best for him!
Reply:sounds expensive. i suggest snap on smile. it only cost a grand. and you get to pick the shape and color of the teeth
Reply:veneers dont look like horse teeth if they are done right. i make them for a living. if his teeth are healthy than definately go with veneers.

When Hillary fails to win she has stated that she wants to be in a Hollywood movie?

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What would be a good character for her to play, I thought that a revision of the sixties TV program Mr. Ed would be perfect, and she could play Mr. Ed, what are your Hollywood choices?

A horse is a horse of course.......

Yes, with big horse teeth...signing off.....Mr. Mature

When Hillary fails to win she has stated that she wants to be in a Hollywood movie?
The Joker
Reply:Gotta be better than W's " Bedtime for Bonzo!!"
Reply:Capitol Hillary, if there is such a character.
Reply:i dont know you can do whatever you want with her she is more republican then Democrat. Republicans are worse in america
Reply:Maybe my favorite Martian? She definitely looks alien! No wait how about Cousin It?
Reply:What about "THE CREATURE FROM THE BLUE LAGOON"?
Reply:How about Arnolds next sidekick in Terminator 4?Hell they're both nazis.
Reply:You guys are really running scared aren't you? If this is the best you can do to criticize Hillary then 2008 is going to be even easier than I imagined.
Reply:A contestant in "To tell the Truth".
Reply:Grey’s Anatomy- she could have a failed land venture that makes her an expert in medicine and become the head of cardiology.
Reply:Bride of Frankenstein

Actually massivemann------"Bedtime for Bozo" was Reagan.
Reply:Cruela DeVil in 101 Dalmations!
Reply:Horse with No Name is the title of the movie.

VOTE for your choice as US President on my 360 degrees blog and know who will likely win.

My girl she pray to God but he not ancerred yet. Do you think He will?

2010-05-21T18:44:00.002-07:00

My girl she got horse teeth and she pray God, God please send me manna so I no fell ugly no more. To me she is beutifal but she have no confidence and no like her self. The only way she get teeth fixsed is with money but no I nor family can afford it. I no like asking Jesus for money but she hate her teeth so mucht. She tryed counceling and stuff but no avale.

She so pritty inside and fell so awful outside. What we do? We no ask Jesus for money is wrong thing but we no figure out how else to do it. Job do not pay enough. Thank you.

My girl she pray to God but he not ancerred yet. Do you think He will?
From what you ask, it seems as if you love this girl very much.

You tell us that to you, she is beautiful.

If you could make enough money, you would take her somewhere to get her teeth fixed.

You tell us that she is pretty inside. You are wise, to know that inside beauty is what really counts.

Perhaps God HAS answered her prayers.

After all...He sent her you!!!

(Remember to thank Him for all of the wonderful blessings He has given to you...nstead of concentrating on what you don't have, celebrate what you do have.

Think about it,
Reply:Well to get a answer she gots to feel it in her heart.If you pray something(I went to church tonight)You will get a answer when the thing she prays happens.Thats her answer.If she is scared to know just to tell if you belive in god he puts a fance around your house.I saw my gardian angle once,My friend saw hers too and thought is was a stranger,But it was not.If she ever sees her gardian angle,tell her to pray after that and the angle might give a answer.Tell her its not whats in the outside,Its whats in the inside.I really think this will help.I feel ugly to but to get my feelings back,I did what i said
Reply:which god?
Reply:Troll.
Reply:I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but God is not going to do anything for you, ever.
Reply:Don't ask Jesus for money, he's a Jew.
Reply:love her for who she is...a child of God
Reply:God may be telling you to get a 2nd job or a better paying job. He may be telling you to get serious, too.
Reply:God will ALWAYS answer, even if its not the way you want. Just trust in Him and He will make it work out for His plan.
Reply:Ask God for the number of a Orthodontist who has a good payment program.
Reply:Just feed her lots of oats and tell her she is beautiful. God made horses too. They are one of his most lovely creations.
Reply:Live in faith and Gods word.Think not of what he is going to do,think what you need to do.Be patient,miracles do not happen over night nor do prayers.It may take a week,month,or a few years.

Praying to God then questioning his works because it is not on your time makes God question your actions.

Do you do it because of your will in time of need or is do you do it because of your faith in god?
Reply:There are a lot of children out there with far worse problems than to have ugly teeth. Tell your girl to keep praying God may supply your need sometime some where. God loves your girl but he wants all of us to think about others and their needs not ours. I have met a lot of kids that have lots of different kinds of problems. If we have faith in him he will bless us all.
Reply:Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26

He replied, "Because you have so little faith. I tell you the truth, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you." Matthew 17:20
Reply:Hi there....God DOES answer all prayers! It is either with yes, no, or wait awhile. Have you checked to see it there is a dental school close? Sometimes they cost a lot less and there is someone to supervise what is being done. A lot of orthodontists will let you make monthly payments....check on that. I will pray that God will give you wisdom to find someone who can help you that you can afford. It does make a difference to a child about how they look growing up. God knows this and will help you.

† On-call Prayer Warrior †

BRACES QUESTION: Can Braces push the top jaw "upward"?

2010-05-21T18:44:00.001-07:00

Hi!!

My friend has a "gummy smile" where it seems that her TOP jaw seems "too long" --giving her a "bugs bunny/ horse tooth" type smile, and her 2 front teeth actually look "long".

CAN BRACES PUSH THE UPPER JAW BACK UPWARD INTO THE MOUTH --SO HER TEETH WILL LOOK LESS BUCKTOOTHED????

BRACES QUESTION: Can Braces push the top jaw "upward"?
NO.. YOUR LOWER JAW IS MOBIL, BUT UPPER JAW IS PART OF YOUR SKULL SO IT ISNT MOBIL. MAYBE U CAN ASK AN ORTHODONTIST WHAT HE THINKS, BUT U CANT MOVE THE UPPER JAW. =)
Reply:Well, I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but she can get the dentist to shave the teeth down if those teeth are too long. If it's a gummy smile, she can have the dentist recontour the gums. Why doesn't she just go to a cosmetic dentist for a consultation???
Reply:braces can bring teeth up but not the jaw without the help of other tools like a head gear or surgery.

Some things like rubber bands can move or keep the jaw from growing.

Gummy smiles are common and there are a number of fixes. Go to a cosmetic dentist for help

keep smiling,

Dr. Marvin

http://www.smileiq.com

http://www.myspace.com/askthedentist...
Reply:Often the reason for a "gummy smile" is not that the teeth have a problem, but that she has an incompetent upper lip. This means that her upper lip is too short. This often is a side effect of someone who has allergies or other issues that cause them to breath through their mouth a lot. The upper lip slowly starts to shorten and thus shows more of the upper teeth and gums. If this seems to be the case, her braces will bring her teeth into the correct position, but the "gummy" look may still be there. There are ways to stretch your lip back down where it should be and even professionals who can help with that, no surgery or damage involved, called an orofacial myologist.

Broken Teeth

How often?

2010-05-21T18:44:00.000-07:00

How often should you get your horses teeth floated? I had my horse's teeth done when I first got him 4 years ago.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

How often?
You should have their dental work done once a year, not always does the horse need to be floated yearly but the vet/dentist will examine the teeth and if needed will float them.
Reply:I suggest asking your vet. Also, read up on teeth care in horse encyclopedias. I'd imagine you'd do it somewhat often, so I think he may need them floated again.
Reply:Once a year.
Reply:Every 6 months to once a year.

I have a QH that gets done about every year to 18 months, but I have a TB that has to be done every 6 months or he gets sharp edges and has a hard time eating.

I think their teeth are a lot like there feet, some have soft ones and some have hard ones. These two horses are the perfect example of that theory. -just my opinion, it is not proven in any way.

On "average" it is to be done yearly.
Reply:At least once per year but they usually recommend twice per year or if you are changing bits. They can float the teeth so that the bit sits better.
Reply:For an adult horse usually once every year or two. You can ask you vet to check them when he gives you horse its shots. When they are younger you have to float more often.
Reply:I would suggest once a year. Be sure that you use a vet or equine dentist that specializes in floating teeth. There is more to it than a local vet running a file back and forth across a few teeth. Our vet uses a special vise to open the horses mouth and the files/tools run off of an air compressor. Yes the horse is midly sedated! The process may take up to 45 minutes depending on the condition of the teeth. We have had a horse that had to go back in about 6 months as his teeth were in terrible shape and needed to be rechecked. What you spend on having your horse's teeth floated will save you on feed as horses with bad teeth will not only drop feed but will not chew it up properly and it will pass right on thru the digestive system. That's why you sometimes see grain in horse manure..........
Reply:Dont worry about it again for years.
Reply:It's an "as needed" thing. Mine are checked at their annual check up and stick me visit. If they need floated, we check on them again throughout the year, until we get a schedule established.
Reply:I suggest having this done every year. Some horses in advanced competition or with problematic teeth will need this done every six months. 4 years is definatly a bit too long for the horse to go. I would definatly set up an appointment with your vet or equine dentist to have his teeth floated. Then the two of you can set up a schedule for the future based on your hroses needs.
Reply:I would suggest having the vet check the teeth when he comes out to give him his shots, (usually 2 a year) but they don't always need them don't each year. some teeth grow slower than others, one of my horses hasn't need his done for the past 3 years. and i have another that need it done about once each year.
Reply:They should be checked at least once a year, preferably twice. But they probably won't need floating every time they are checked...most horses get it done once a year.
Reply:Once a year.You're horse will probably need his done by now.
Reply:A horses teeth should get done every six months! you better get him checked out as soon as you can. And maybe find a new vet! its the vets responisibilty to check his teeth and schedule for the dentist
Reply:Personally - I only float my horse's teeth when necessary. If they are dropping grain or hay when they eat - that's when I float them. Unless I catch the points sooner then I would order a floating.
Reply:Well they should be checked once a year at least and then floated if necessary
Reply:Typically its every 2 years but some horses can go longer.
Reply:my vet said once a year

Is it normal to find youre brother doing this?

2010-05-21T18:43:00.003-07:00

Well brother has just got a new job you see working at some stables, but the thing is, I was rooting through his bedroom the other day and i came across some pictures. One of them was a horses penis and the other was of the same horse smiling! I decided to follow brother to the stables the next day and hide behind a haystack to stalk him . But to my horror, when I looked in the stable, I saw him licking the horses teeth with his legs shaking violently! Anyway, my question is, is this the best way to clean a horses teeth? sent

Is it normal to find youre brother doing this?
There are few secrets so close as those between horse and rider, and people will make their own personal relationships. It is unwise to share toothbrushes, and a few dry rolled oats will help with oral hygiene for both of them.
Reply:Well thanks. 100%. Maybe folk felt spoilt for choice... it was the best answer tho. Report It

Do braces really work 100%???

2010-05-21T18:43:00.002-07:00

i have braces now for about 5 months barely but i want to kno if they really work and what are really really their results....i got a really bad problem wit my teeth ppl would usually make fun of me bcuz of da way dey would look...sorta like horse teeth cuz my two top front teeth would be sorta a big square and make my teeth loook like horse or rabbit teeth....so i really wait for results but i want to hear stories from ya too...thanx.............so do dey really work?

Do braces really work 100%???
Yes they work, but it's gradual so you may not see much quite yet. You have to follow their instructions afterwards for wearing your retainers to keep your teeth in place or they can go back to where they were.
Reply:i've had braces for about 2 years and my teeth look alot better. they got alot straighter. i think that they really work
Reply:well actually i guess it depends who your orthadonist is, because right away mine put spings on my teeth and you can definaltely see the improvment with in 1 month! and i guess it depends how your teeth are!
Reply:See it for yourself go to this web site.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=h...

Here they show you people's theeths before and after.

Screw ur political correctness?

2010-05-21T18:43:00.001-07:00

A dwarf with a lisp goes into a stud farm, 'I'd like to buy a horth'

he

Says to the owner of the farm.

'What sort of horse?' said the owner.

'A female horth' the dwarf replies.

So the owner shows him a mare.

'Nithe horth.' says the dwarf, 'Can I thee her eyeth?'

So the owner picks up the dwarf to show him the horses eyes.

'Nithe eyeth.', says the dwarf, 'Can I thee her teeth?'

Again the owner picks up the dwarf to show him the horses teeth.

'Nithe teeth.... can I see her eerth?' the dwarf says.

The owner is getting fed up but again picks up the dwarf to show him

the

horses ears.

'Nithe eerth.' He says,

'Now...can I see her twot?'

With this the owner picks the dwarf up by the scruff of his neck and

shoves his head deep inside the horses v*gina. He holds him there for

a

couple of seconds before pulling him out and putting him down.

The dwarf shakes his head and says:

'Perhaps I should weefwaze that. Can I see her wun awound?'

Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:2

Screw ur political correctness?
lol lol ha ha ha, love it!
Reply:lol vewy good
Reply:Bwah ha ha ha..inhale....BWAAAH HA HA HA....

(**)

hoooo....that was good!
Reply:Laughing my arthe off.
Reply:wun der fule joke.lol
Reply:Made my day!!! STAR FOR YOU. Pity I can only give one.
Reply:You weely need a slap on the wist don't you?

Made me laugh though %26amp; that's what it's all about.

Any more?
Reply:Yeah great one ha ha ha
Reply:love it!
Reply:Ha Ha! Funny! 10!
Reply:Nice one.
Reply:ha ha ha funny
Reply:PHA HA HA HA!!!!! LOL!!! XD
Reply:Quite a funny joke, nice one.
Reply:HA HA HA HA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Is this the best joke ever?

2010-05-21T18:43:00.000-07:00

A dwarf with a lisp goes into a stud farm, 'I'd like to buy a horth’ he

says to the owner of the farm.

'What sort of horse?' said the owner.

'A female horth' the dwarf replies.

So the owner shows him a mare.

'Nithe horth.' says the dwarf, 'Can I thee her eyeth?'

So the owner picks up the dwarf to show him the horses eyes.

'Nithe eyeth.', says the dwarf, 'Can I thee her teeth?'

Again the owner picks up the dwarf to show him the horses teeth.

'Nithe teeth.... can I see her eerth?' the dwarf says.

The owner is getting fed up but again picks up the dwarf to show him the

horses ears.

'Nithe eerth.' He says, 'Now...can I see her twot?'

With this the owner picks the dwarf up by the scruff of his neck and

shoves his head

deep inside the horse's v*gina. He holds him there for a couple of

seconds before pulling him out and putting him down.

The dwarf shakes his head and says:

'Perhaps I should weefwaze that. Can I see her wun awound?'

Is this the best joke ever?
Have you heard the thaying? 'Never look a gift arthe in the mouth? Or ith it horth? I enjoyed it though!
Reply:No

Most of us saw it coming.
Reply:dirty
Reply:lmao... poor dwarf!
Reply:funny but you could sort of tell he was gonna mispronounce something and that would result in a catostrapic event
Reply:Nope not the best. I saw the end coming.
Reply:too predictable
Reply:not the best joke ever but a good 1 all the same
Reply:All these people saying they saw the end coming, so did the dwarf when the farmer picked him up.
Reply:That`s funny lol,,,,,
Reply:I thought it was really funny

I'm dying to now if I am the only one who thinks this is funny?

2010-05-21T18:42:00.003-07:00

This guy owns a horse stud farm. One day a friend phones him and says, 'There's this dwarf with a speech impediment I know who wants to buy a horse, so I've sent him round to see you.'

Sure enough the dwarf turns up. The owner asks him, 'Do you want a male horse or a female horse?'

'A female horth', the dwarf replies. So the owner shows him a mare.

'Nith horth', says the dwarf, 'can I thee her eyth?'

So the owner picks up the dwarf to show him the horses eyes. 'Nith eyth', says the dwarf, 'can I thee her teeth?'

Again the owner picks up the dwarf to show him the horses teeth. 'Nith teeth, can I see her eerth?' the dwarf says.

By now the owner is getting a little fed up but again the owner picks up the dwarf to show him the horses ears. 'Nith eerth' he says 'now, can I see her twot?'

With this the owner picks up the dwarf and shoves his faces into the horse's vagina, he holds him there for a second before putting him down.

The dwarf shakes his head and says, 'Maybe I should wefwaze that. Can I see her wun awound!'

twot= trot (not twat)

I'm dying to now if I am the only one who thinks this is funny?
i thought that was hilarious.
Reply:hahaaa.. that was good.... its funny to me..
Reply:yeah. that is funny.

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The dwarf!?

2010-05-21T18:42:00.002-07:00

A guy owns a horse farm. One day a friend phones him up , "I've sent a dwarf with a speech impediment to see you. He wants to buy a horse". Sure enough the dwarf turns up.

Dwarf asks "I want to buy a horth"

The owner asks him "Do you want a male horse or a female horse ?"

The Dwarf replies "A female horth"

The owner shows him a Mare.

"Nithe Horth" says the Dwarf, "can I thee her eyth?" The owner picks up the Dwarf to show him the Horses eyes.

"Nithe eyth" says the Dwarf "can I thee her teeth?" Again the owner picks up the dwarf to show him the horses teeth.

"Nithe teeth, can I see her eerth?" The Dwarf asks. By now the owner is getting a little fed up, but again picks up the Dwarf to show him the horses ears.

"Nithe eerth," he says "Can I see her twot?" With this the owner picks up the Dwarf and shoves his head deep between the horse's legs, holding him there for a second before pulling him out %26amp; putting down.

"Perhaps I should rephrathe that" said the Dwarf, "can I see her wun awound?"

The dwarf!?
Really funny, got tears in eyes on that one! lol.
Reply:Brilliant
Reply:nithe one
Reply:lol

I better not tell the one about the dwarf with learning difficulties - Its not big and its not clever!
Reply:Gweat one!
Reply:ha ha ha funny

thanks for a laugh

10/10
Reply:LOL excellent, star for you, babe.x
Reply:That's very naughty
Reply:nice
Reply:lol,very funny.star.
Reply:well he did ask, pmsl

star time

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Reply:lol nice real nice
Reply:bwahath hath hath fery phunny and a thtar !

Dreaming about hair and teeth falling out?? PLEASE HELP! its scary?

2010-05-21T18:42:00.001-07:00

i am 16 and i had a dream last night that i felt my front tooth and it was really wobbly and then they all started falling out and crumbling and i was in shock and was spitting out blood and a bone came out then i thouched my hair that was in plats (my hair goes down to my bum) and its all started falling out everytime i would touch it and i was screaming and noone would help me?? what does this mean? also i remember dreaming of a brown horse and a dog near a rehabilitation centre?? what the hell does this mean ?? please help!

Dreaming about hair and teeth falling out?? PLEASE HELP! its scary?
I think that means your pregnant when you dream about losing hair and teeth.

About losing teeth: http://www.dream-analysis.com/dreams/dre...

About losing hair: To dream that you are losing your hair, denotes that you are concerned with the notion that you are getting older and losing your sex appeal/virility. You are preoccupied with aging and your appearance. Losing you hair also signify a lack of strength and that you do not possess the power to succeed in an undertaking. You may be feeling weak and vulnerable.
Reply:i think it just means that you spend a lot of time thinking about your hair and teeth.. and then your dreams exaggerate it to a high extent. but what you should be doing is thinking positive about your physical features and yourself and it'll be fine.
Reply:usually the loss of hair and teeth relate to the loss of strength. have you been feeling a loss of strength?
Reply:I have had some weird dreams, and I bought this book to see what they meant. After looking up some of my dreams and reading the meaning, nothing the book said happened after. But I will try to give the information it tells me!

According to my dream book:

If you dream that your teeth are loose, there will be failures and gloomy tidings

If you dreaming about loosing your teeth you will have burdens which will crush your pride and demolish your affairs

If you dream about loosing hair, and baldness is apparent, she will have to earn her own livelinhood, as fortune has passed her by

If you dream of dark horses , it signifies prosperous conditions, but a large amount of discontent, fleeting pleasures often follow this dream. There was too many types of dogs in the book to comment on what it means for your dream.
Reply:Megan referred you to a website which gives some explanations. They are valid in some cases. Dreams are individual stories that apply to you personally and may thus vary in meaning according to your age, sex and general disposition. I have found that it is mainly women who dream of teeth falling out.

Some of the answers you got suggest pregnancy and menopause. The latter can't be the case and the former is not likley as I can see from here. But they are close to the mark. It has to do with your sexuality.

I shall explain. You have heard of love bites. For bites of any kind you need your teeth. Lovers in their excitement may bite each other. From this we may conclude that teeth are 'sexy' items. Indeed, when you meet someone you love you will smile at them, thus showing your teeth. Monkeys of course would think that you are about to attack them. But as you know, love and hate, sex and violence are first cousins.

Think about what happened as you lost your teeth in your dream. You were spitting blood and even a bone. As I see it such a dream may well foreshadow your period. This is of course at the opposite end of menopause and this shows you how important it is to know about the individual dreamer before you can say what a dream means. It is now important for you to watch this. Next time you have such a dream see if your period is about to come.

Hair too is a sexy item like teeth. What does a girl do when she sees a desirable boy approach? She gets her hair in order, she strokes it into place, her hair must look good so it will appeal to the opposite sex or the desirable individual.

You have said something interesting while telling your dream: "My hair goes down to my bum"! This is revealing because you have made the connection between the hair of your head and the hair below, which is the pubic hair.

Hair thus is of particualr significance when it comes to sexual inferences. After all the growth of pubic hair is sign of sexual maturity.

So you see you need not be terrified at all. The dream merely speaks to you of your femininity, of your sexual maturity.

Now there is something else you will learn as you study your dreams. Dreams often speaks indirectly to you just as we do when we tell a sexual joke or when we are too shy to refer to our sexual anatomy and speak in metaphors instead, saying things like 'down below' or the 'water works' and so on. The dream loves that sort of talk. I call it associative language.

The dream speaks in likenesses. It likens one part or your body with another. There are correspondences between your mouth and the vulva for instance Even in the medical language or anatomical terminology there is reference made to labiae or lips. This is the ultimate connection between your mouth and your reproductive system. The dream makes use of this correspondence and when it wants to announce your periodical bleeding it talks of teeth being spat out with blood following. The bone might well say that the period is a loss of a life which is built on a skeleton of bones. It might in other words be a reference to the ovum that has been destroyed and aborted. This would be just the opposite of what someone else had suggested when they said that you might be pregnant.

So take heart, you are not ill, you are not really going to lose your hair or teeth. To understand the dream's way of speaking we must realise that it speaks associatively as I have already indicated. Thus instead of saying blood will flow from your reproductive system it will say that it will flow from your mouth. And instead of saying that fluid will pass your labiae it will say that the associated hair will fall out, hair which in turn is asscoiated with your plaits. (Recall the fact that the latter are in close association with that blood flow.) Yes those plaits are your crowning glory and thus a central item in the spiel of the sexes. And because early Christian women were not to make a show of their feminine charm in church they were forced to cover their heads with scarves. In Islam the women must do it still to this very day.
Reply:I don't know much about the hair or animals in relation, but teeth falling out, ususally means someone you know will die. Seriously, this has happened to me more than a few times, scarey alright.
Reply:The loss of teeth and hair is frequently associated with eating disorders, anorexia, bulimia, etc. Are you nourishing your body properly, if not, your subconscious may be trying to alert you to the dangers of improper eating.. if that's the case, seek help.

How do I get my horse to stop throwing his head?

2010-05-21T18:42:00.000-07:00

I have a horse who throws his head when I ask him to back or sidepass. I know it is not that he has a sore tooth, because he does it whether I am using a bit or a bosal. How can I correct this without using a training fork or an overcheck?

How do I get my horse to stop throwing his head?
Im going to throw this out there cause it hasnt been mentioned yet..

When was the last time you had your horses teeth floated?

Is he young enough that he may have had his wolfe teeth forgotten?I know several that they just didnt errupt till later 5,6,7 and at that point,it may have just left the owners mind - no ones fault it just happens.I had a friend with a 14 year old well trained morgan gelding that all of a sudden he started with the head tossing - and it was his wolfe teeth :)

Regular floating sometimes twice a year can become the norm as a horse gets older.

And if you randomly tie a horse down when hes in physical pain, your not only going to cause him to act out more demonstratively,but your risking your own neck.

Look for the cause first - I dont have much of an issue with a tie down if its used properly %26amp; not as a quick fix.
Reply:you could try a tie down.

so he can't do it. but thats not really helping you train him.
Reply:I KNOW this sounds like an obvious answer, but you need to find out why he does it. Forcing him not to do it will just cause another problem.

Check out things like; are you too harsh on his mouth when you ask? Do you rush him? Is his training not far enough along and he doesn't really understand? Are you unbalancing him, or is he unbalancing himself and if so why? Are you trying to get him to move over or back quickly when he's not yet good at doing it slowly? Perhaps you could ask several people to watch, and think about what each one says they think it is. Sorry can't help more without seeing you both. Please don't tie him down, he's trying to tell you something.
Reply:First thing you need to determine is why is the horse throwing his head. This is resistance and could be due to a number of causes. Using a tie down (or similar device) is a crutch or band-aid on the deeper issues.

Here are some basic questions to think about when evaluating this concern:

1. Is the horse throwing his head only when ridden or at other times too?

2. Have you had the teeth checked to be sure there is nothing happening inside the mouth that is affecting your performance?

3. What type of bit are you using?

4. Is the bit fitted properly to the size and shape of the mouth?

5. Do you have a trainer or experienced friend that can watch you from the ground to see if there is something happening that you are missing?

6. Does your saddle fit correctly?

It has always been my experience that horses tell us what they need, what works or doesn’t work for them as long as we pay attention.

Good Luck on finding the root of this problem, your horse will appreciate it.
Reply:Since you say he throws his head when you ask him to back and sidepass I'm going to assume he doesn't do it at other times in your ride. Are these 2 movements something either he or you (or both) are just learning?. If they are it sounds like it is possible you may be giving too much rein aids as compared with seat and leg aids. For the leg yield (sidepass) the seat and leg intiate the movement. The hand is more of a guiding aid in essence opening the door so the horse can move in a sideways direction away from the leg and seat aids. For a leg yield to the right the bend of the horse is slighty left (in halfpass the bend is in the same direction of movement). The left leg and left seatbone are the driving aid that move the horse over with the left leg slightly behind the girth. The left hand helps maintain the slight bend away from the direction of movement. The right leg is on the girth and aids in maintaining the forward and straight movement. The right hand is slightly opening allowing the horse to move in the direction of the leg yield. In backing up you initiate the movement by adding leg in equal pressure slightly behind the girth and come slightly vertical with your upper body to lighten you seat in the saddle (effectively opening the door to allow the horse to move backward). All the hands do is stop the horse from moving forward from the leg pressure. The hand is fixed not pulling. The hand is not used to pull the horse back or I guarentee you there will be some head tossing. Hope I've helped
Reply:A tie-down would work. if its a TWH they tend to do that
Reply:Maybe the bit is hurting his teeth. Try a different bit or have the vet look at his teeth. They may need to be floated. I have to have the vet out once a year to get it done. Horses teeth grow and can cause sores in their mouths so they need to be filed down.
Reply:if would do alternating pressure on the reins to back up and i would carry a long whip as an extension of your arm to side pass

also make sure he can do these things on the GROUND!!!!! if he wont do it on the ground hes even less likely to in the saddle!!!
Reply:If has shaking it side to side that means hes happy and wants you to pet him. Unfortuatly i dont have a horse.
Reply:Don't get a tie down or a training fork. If you do all that will happen is that you will create a crutch for you and the horse and not actually fix the problem. Like others have mentioned, make sure his teeth are ok. Even though you use a bosal it still applies pressure on the outside of his mouth and pushes on his teeth.

If he only does it at the side pass or backing and no other time, it could be that it is a movement that is new to him or he has some aniexty assocaite with it. Be calm and patient whe you ask him to do these manuvers. When you ask him to back make sure that you are removing pressure the second he takes a step back. Same thing with the sidepass. He simply may upset because you ask for this manuever and never give the release of pressure that is his reward. Keep at apply pressure wait for him to more in the desired direction and release. If he does the head tossing with other things then as soon as he does that gently take his face by flexing him
Reply:My gelding had a simular problem, use a tie down so he can't get his head up.

Mine was only $15 or $20.

Help with horse gaining weight?

2010-05-21T18:41:00.003-07:00

We have got a 15 year old thouroghbred cross and the thing will not gain weight at all. We have had his teeth floated, the vet checked for worms, anemia and sand. We have tried using weight builder, beet pulp, corn oil, molasses and everything else and nothing is working at all. Our vet set up a feed ratio for him and I know it sounds like a lot but as of right now we feed him 5 pounds of cracked corn and 5 flakes of alfalfa haay in the morning and the same at night. We moved him to one of our small paddocks to limit excercise and keep rounds bales of grass hay available for him at all times in it and the hose is still showing ribs. He is about 16.3 hh and some have said that because of the breed he will stay thin. Can anyone help all of our other horses are fat and have a nice barrell and then he looks abused or something.

Help with horse gaining weight?
Thanks for your question and I hope I can be of some help.

First of all, checking with your vet is always a smart thing to do.

Second, some ideas that I have come across are of course beet pulp and alfalfa, all of which you tried. Another natural way is grass. If at all possible he should have access to grass all day. Another idea, instead of beet pulp which has been said to only fill their stomach and not put on weight, is rice bran. It can usually found at a local feed store or horse store. Just ask and someone should be able to help you pick one out. Max-E-Glo (by RiceX) is a very popular choice and has been highly recommended as a supplement.

Before you start on a supplement I would check that there is nothing wrong with him that is preventing him from gaining weight. Sometimes it's a medical condition.

Another supplement that come recommended to me are "Hard-Keeper" (made by Vita-Flex) - high in all of the fats, amino acids, and the omega-3.

I would just suggest going to your local store for where ever you get your other feed and supplements and ask them what they would recommend. They are often very knowledgeable about what products are available in your area.

I hope that helps!
Reply:TB's are going to be normally more slender than some other breeds (quarter horses for example) although he shouldn't be ribby all the time...

When I had horses, I put them on sweet feed in the winter (because of the corn and molasses) to keep their weight and body temp up, then primarily oats in the summer..

What you've tried sounds like what I would do...he's getting 10 lbs of food a day...just give it more time would be my suggestion (how long have you been feeding him this way?)

What about not changing the total amount of food, but breaking it into 3 feedings instead of 2? He might get more out of it if it was spread out...kind of like if we drink a bottle of water real fast and then have to pee, versus sipping along on it all day and it being absorbed into our body.

Good luck!
Reply:I don't know that much about feed for horses, but I would talk to the vet again and tell her what are telling here. I would also go to a feed store and see what they can offer and what the people there have to say. I would probably suggest something that is high in energy, like a high-calorie feed and something with high sugar content, like glucose. Hope everything works out!
Reply:Well, I can say good job on doing the vetranary care you have done!

About the weinght problem, you said that you are feeding him 5 flakes of alfalfa. This much of alfalfa one could cause ulcers, two, I doubt that he is finishing all of his hay between morning feed and night feed. Alfalfa is also more of an energy based feed as well. When you are trying to get a horse to gain weight, feed little and often. Also try feeding alot of grass hay, and not so much uncotraoled pasure hay or alfalfa (maybye stable the horse?) Then feed maybe 2 flakes grass in the morning...2 flakes grass at noon....2 flakes grass in the evning.

In adition to grass hay, grains are also very good. Ultium has worked wonders on my horses but is rather expensive. You could try compeat advantage. (Compleat Advantage will give less energy then Ultium). And again with this feed little and offten. 2 quts in the morning with 1/2 his suplaments...1 qurt noon with no supplyments.....2 qurts evning with 1/2 his suplyments. You can also mix in some bran mash to ensure he is eating all of it.

One thing with upping all this feed, make sure he is getting exersided at least EVERY OTHER DAY! I can say it enough...horses need to be out, even if they are pasture kept. Exersise for your case could just be an hours walk hack or just walk and chat with freinds, what ever you do make sure he is getting out. This will help keep him happy and encourage him to eat. If he isnt doing anything, he wont eat that much.

Hope this helps!

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Ode to Penfold's green teeth, a poem about mysterious disappearances?

2010-05-21T18:41:00.002-07:00

Where is that rasor toothed beaver face anyway?

Welcome Y!New Fish.

Green grinner

From Stinky river

From under the bridge

He’s quite a sinner

A magical beast

With the toothiest grin

Don’t look in his speedo

There’s nothing to see

He was smited And he rose

Reincarnated as a horse

Picking his potato nose

Watch him now he’ll strike a pose

What a green toothed little bugger

Always starting up the trouble

Christian forums, mental health

He tells all to kiss his bass.

Ooooo-cha... Baracuda!

Ode to Penfold's green teeth, a poem about mysterious disappearances?
Finalising the ode to Green grinner

Green grinner was only forty three he didn't wanna die

Now he's gone to make sarky comments

in that Y/A in the sky

Where the contacts are all angels

and the Y!Police are banned

And a green toothed trolls life is full of fun

In that lairy contrary land

But a womans needs are many fold

and Pen she married Stooge

But strange things happened on their wedding night

as they lay in their luge

Is that the wind a rustling

or the skids on this here sled

or grinners bogey covered wheelchair

running repeatedly over his head

They won't forget Green grinner

And he talked a lot of baloney in his vest
Reply:*hides from the trouty speedo*
Reply:Continuation of Ode to Penny and Others Who Shall Not Remain Nameless

Well if the real thing don't do the trick (no?)

You'd better think of something quick

You're gonna burn, burn, burn, burn to the wick

Now won'tcha?

Ooooooo Bara-bara-bara cuuuuda

The lures are out there

For any dumb bass to strike

Shiny, tempting, oh so alluring

Hey fishy boy says the spoon, you like?

Poor hungry thing just sucks it in

Now wriggling like a fish on dry land

Struggling to avoid any helping hand

Sinks like a stone that's been thrown in the ocean

His logic is gone as he drinks his own potion

Poison air ain't so smart

Dead before he starts

Be still my bleedin' heart.
Reply:i drop on poem not in toilet

what tm means after names

magic man jump on dreamboat annie

pull out in time to spit juice on poem
Reply:Well I expected you to say "red teeth"!!

Oh..... Unless your skin and blood are green in colour!!

He would have loved to feast on them!!!

Anyway... Don't worry. He would soon be here.

Just wait and let him finish with the meal at hand, He will come for you!!!

Am i in trouble now??

*Turned tail*
Reply:We should have a wake for Pennfold under the bridge. I've got a six-pack and a tube of glue.
Reply:I am starting to get that creepy feeling Penfold deletes himself in order to get all that attention that little green stumper.
Reply:This is a funny poem ; thanks i needed a good laugh,

My horse has a bloody nose!?

2010-05-21T18:41:00.001-07:00

My horse is sick, we're pretty sure he has a sinus infection. He's very sensetive to dust and things like that. but he hasnt been drinking so he started to colic the other night but we stopped it with equispaz. but then his feet got warm and his back feet were warmer than his front feet. and his nose started pourin snot. then it turned in to bloody snot and now its just blood. he doesnt have an absessed tooth or anything and hes been eating fine. ive been giving him 24ccs of penecillin a day, so any suggestions?

My horse has a bloody nose!?
Seriously guys, how many times have our horses gotten into either dusty hay or something with ugly pollen that has caused things like this? You can tell by the wording of the question that the owner is not a novice and just wants another opinion before acting on their own. Believe it or not, the answer isn't always, "CALL THE VET"...regardless of what you say, or can say...the wallet does help dictate who you call and when, and so does having some horse experience. Sorry, but I have been criticized up the yahoo about treating my own horses and not calling the vet...it's not like I hadn't called the vet in like circumstances 5,10,15,20, 25.30, even 40 yrs ago, and if one can't learn something usable in that length of time, they should move to an old folk's home. I don't even want to hear, "If you cannot afford a vet, you can't afford the horse." Things happen, and if this month or that the budget doesn't scream out, "CALL THE VET", then you do what you can do without it...that doesn't mean that you are going to put your horse in jeopardy in the process, but there are things that you can do with your index finger to help your horse other than call the vet. If I have offended anyone, I apologize...for offending, not for saying what I had to say.
Reply:Now would be the time to call the vet.

I hope everything turns out great, but really call the vet.
Reply:Sounds like a gutteral pouch infection to me.

Hard to treat, needs extensive vet care.

Then if thats the case, you haul to a vet that isn't a moron. I have vets I dont like, vets I do, if the ones I do like aren't available, then I have to go with the lesser quality.

Theres nothing wrong with coming on here asking for advice, but if you don't want your horse fixed, the magical internet fairy isn't going to heal your horse from this side of the screen.

You go to the vet.........
Reply:Ouch, sounds like gutteral pouch to me. They can bleed out or hemmorage from them so ya that's a 911 to a vet from me too.
Reply:bloody noses can be serious. I've always been told to call the vet IMMEDIATELY if the horse's nose is bleeding.

Are you sure you should be giving your horse medication not reccomended by a vet when you don't actually know whats wrong with him?
Reply:Keep up the penecillin, and monitoring is key. If he starts bleeding heavily, call the vet, cause that is definitely not normal!
Reply:Have you realized that this horse may be foundering? The warmth in the feet especially the rears is a good indication.

VET NOW
Reply:Is it both nostrils or heavier on one side and are lymph nodes enlarged? Could be sinusitis - but if its heavy, smelly and bilateral it's likely to be a gutteral pouch infection which is commonly caused by fungus and as such pencillin won't be much help other than to stuff up his gut bacteria. . If he is haemorraging badly you should seek IMMEDIATE vet assistance as severe bleeding can be fatal. I'm with others on this totally - no point in asking here for help - your horse almost certainly needs medical treatment.
Reply:call a VET NNNNOOOOWWWWW thi horse needs even if the vets are not the best they can probly help !!!!! VET CALL EM'

My horse bites!?

2010-05-21T18:41:00.000-07:00

My 16 year old TB gelding Jag acts like he's a 3 year old. He's VERY mouthy in the winter, and it seems to go away for the most part in the spring. He isn't maliciously trying to attack everyone, he just grabs our shirts and occasionally but rarely our skin. I think he's just trying to be playful but I'm not 100% sure. It really needs to stop before a child or someone unaware of his habit walks by him. Mostly it's just annoying. I'm always dodging teeth, literally! He's not afraid of the whip or anything, and past owners had given him quite a few slaps on the nose, and he's absolutely NOT head shy or anything nor will he ever be. He's a tough brute. What can I do to prevent him from biting or at least protect myself from being bitten? Does anyone else's horses turn into a fire breathing dragon in the winter? Lol. Thanks!

My horse bites!?
Then I'd make sure the horse "nipped" on something uncomfortable...like a jalepeno, or a slice of lemon. I've even covered lead ropes, bucket handles, and other things in tabasco sauce.

If your shirt is grabbed, you can quickly rub the lemon slice through his lips, and on his gums. Saying "no" at the same time. Hopefully, he will connect the bitter taste and "no" with putting his mouth on you.

I'd definitely retaliate EVERY time he did that.

EDIT: Momma wolf...wasn't that "Black Gold?"

EDIT #2...Has anyone noticed that we get thumbed down on discipine? *GASP!* No wonder horses are getting dumped and sold because "they" are "unmanageable." Or because they hurt people. *sheesh!*...idiot trolls.
Reply:Bite him back. I realize this sounds crazy but I had a pony just like this, minus the seasonal issue, she used to grab playfully and until I had actually gotten fed up and bit her right on the nose shed never of stopped. This is a BAD BAD BAD habit as youve noticed so speak his language :) Give him a good bite on the nose - watch your nose though bc I can promise you he is going to flinch. And if you dont want to speak his language and bite him back, EVERY time he does it, swiftly and firmly smack him on the nose. He will learn quick. He will associate "negative" with what he is doing and he will stop. Be more firm thats all. Just be sure to warn people all the time for the time being to assure no one gets hurt. He isnt meaning to be mean Iam sure, but youve still got to take absolutle control of this situation.

Good Luck! :)

**Edit**

Yes, please dont lose a limb in the process hahaha Probably a good thing

**EDIT**

In a sense I really agree with Shrimpy (ps-nice name hahaha I like it) bc you need to learn how to estasblish your dominance with him. Check out some ground concepts by Parelli / Lyons. GREAT GREAT stuff. I know first hand.
Reply:The hot potato trick. I found it in a Walter Farley book and it really works. A horse can not stand to have its mouth burned. It cures bitting , but I would seek the advice of a professional horse trainer or your local equine vet.
Reply:Head straight for (I prefer) Join Up or Parelli and establish his place in the herd with relation to humans and particularly you. You'll both learn a good many things and you're relationship will change from the start.

I personally would not bite back, slap, hit or anything similar as it's feeding response and attention. But completely each to their own. One of the problems with the hot potato or biting back approaches is that whether you agree or disagree, you HAVE to time them at the EXACT moment that the horse bites, and if you miss you could end up with real strife when it doesn't associate the pain with the biting.

Back to the previous, doing this while he's young will make your life sooo much easier in the future and prevent many many other problems that could arise if his nature doesn't get passed through!

Good luck :-)
Reply:One cork, one pin,--put the pin or needle all the way into the cork (wine cork is good) leave 1/4" protrudeing, kep the cork in a pill bottle so you don't stick yourself and carry it with you in the horseyard, when your around the TB hold the cork, don't jab at him, but when he starts nudging or mouthing let him "accidently" hit that pin, guaranteed to work after 2-3 experiances of meeting the pin instead of getting to nip. Good luck---remember, whats crueler? some child losing a finger or him getting a little poke?
Reply:Are you spending enough time with him? that could be a main issue
Reply:You can put a goat in his stall to try and settle him down or get you some Cheyenne pepper from the store and when he come to bite you put on some food and give it to him after a few times with the pepper he will stop or you can whip him for a long time and he will stop it I hate to sound cruel but sometimes you have to do it but something has to be done
Reply:If he is not gelded - gelding him will help. If he is, here is what I did with my 5 year old gelding that is very mouthy. When he would bite I would grap his upper lip and pinch it, HARD. He didn't get any pleasure from biting and he doesn't do it so much anymore. Alternatively, I kept a stiff wirebrush handy and when I would know that he was going to bite, I allowed him to bite it instead of me. That helped to slow it down. I still keep on my toes around him and don't completely trust him yet but we're getting there.
Reply:Has he ALWAYS done this? 16 years old--is he stalled all the time? Regardless, it's winter. Does he have hay to eat all the time? If he isn't getting enough roughage in the winter--say you use a complete feed or similar--he might not have enough to do with his mouth. Esp since you say it goes away (for the most part, whatever that means) in the spring, esp if he has turn-out and access to grass in the warmer months. Playful, maybe, if he's locked up and bored. But I doubt it. If his grain ration is more than he needs for a 16 year old, stalled horse, excess energy can sure turn a horse nippy, too.

I'd certainly not recommend hitting, slapping, punching, or using needles and pins on him to stop it. #1, if he isn't getting enough roughage, give him more hay. #2, cut the grain back. WAY back.

#3, if he persists is biting and you have the space and savvy, back him up, fast and hard, if he takes a peck at you. If he nips while you're brushing him, you can let him run into your elbow or something metallic. I know one guy who wrapped a thin sheet of metal around his mid-section, the part of his anatomy the horse went for. He said the first time the horse clanged the metal with his teeth was the last time he tried. Don't know if that would really work or not.

#4 Another thing that tends to work on a mouthy horse is, when he makes a pass at you, take your hands and briskly, briskly! rub his muzzle. Just his muzzle. Sweet-talk him and get after his face, just the muzzle. At first he might think, good deal! but keep it up, keep rubbing, until he wants you to stop. Then keep it up about 10 seconds longer after he's cried Uncle. Every time he wants to put his mouth on you, briskly, briskly! rub his muzzle. It might take a few times, but after that, he'll think it really isn't worth nipping you for. When he turns his head away, pet his neck and go about your business.

This doesn't hurt the horse at all. He's probably wanting attention or food or both. Give him the attention, but not the kind he wants.

Oh, and suspend giving any kinds of treats by hand. He doesn't need them and it will certainly escalate the problem of nipping if he expects them.

Good luck!
Reply:grazing muzzle.....attatch to halter when he is in cross ties and stuff he will snap but won;t touch you!!!

if you keep a squidgy bottle of lemon juice and sqirt his nose when he goes for you.....doesn;t hurt them.....smells funny...feels and tastes funny too
Reply:I wouldn't give this horse hand treats. I have a gelding who used to be just like this. Are you working with him less in the winter? I found that my gelding was much less mouthy when I worked with him consistently and stimulated his brain as well as his body.
Reply:slap him across the soft part of his muzzle every time, if he's agressive you can be agressive. As for fixing it, HOT POTATOE. stick a potatoe in the microwave about a minute and "tempt" him to bite it (stick it under a shirt sleve and let him bite at you without knowing it's not you). It burns their gums, kinda like you biting into a hot potatoe, but biting horses are dangerous and call for drastic measures. They recover quickly and it doesn't make them head shy or any more passive or agressive.
Reply:My horse will do this during Winter but only if you are not paying attention to him.

Make sure that however you decide to deal with it you put up a nice big noticeable sign to warn people that the horse bites, if necessary put a grille up in the top door. I was advised to do this after mine reached out and bit the vet as he was examining another horse. ( Luckily I have an understanding vet although he did cast some doubts as to my horse's pedigree !)
Reply:OK this is going to sound really mean but it works like a charm.....we have 8 saddlebreds and 4 of them were babies when we bought them and you know babies they like to nibble and they don't do it to be mean and we tried everything and eventually they realize that they can get away with it and they WILL start using it against you...deck him right in his kisser i know it sounds mean but it wont hurt him as much as you think....that's what their parents do they either bite them back or kick them....it will show your horse **** that hurts and that your the dominant one!!! trust me try it it works
Reply:Don't be afraid to punish him. After all, if he bit the boss horse in his herd, he'd be bitten and kicked back. I don't care if I get a thumbs down because its true.

I know he's probably bored from being inside in the winter, but its still no excuse for biting, perhaps he needs more exercise or free time in a paddock.
Reply:What I learned to do is when your horse nips you stomp your foot hard a loudly on the ground and make a loud Game buzzer noise or screech "EEEEE!" noise.

Horses have sensative ears so they will not want to do it again. In a heard, this is what would happen and the horse may bite back as well, or kick.

You don't want your horse to fear you though, you want to teach it that biting is not acceptable and as your the master or the herd, he must listen to you. Not fear, listen.

Smacking your horse on the nose or biting him will not make him too happy.
Reply:bite him back.... or as suggested make biting a nasty expereince for him, unless he likes the taste of tabasco sauce
Reply:biting is a real serious problem..I love all animals but some things just should not be tolerated when my colt started this one day he thought he was gonna be sneaky and nip I caught him out of the corner of my eye and my instinct was to deck him closed fist right in his mouth he never tried to bite again and me weighing only 120 at the time did no hurt to him they don't care if you put pepper on stuff or give him a lemon sounds like he might enjoy all the extra attention and would probably ask for more lemon and pepper that is...this same colt I bought buckets of no bite for my barn areas and it has cayenne mixed in it he loved it more....
Reply:Could he be looking for extra food or treats? Would an apple or other treat distract him from biting? Good luck, I've never had that happen.
Reply:Well, every time it tries to bite you, punish it. Id go with a kick to the face or the genitals, that should teach it quickly lol. You couldnt put it over your knee for a spanking lol.

Maybe it's hitting puberty.

But seriously, make sure you punish it properly.
Reply:what u do is get a race whip and when he bite whip him or get a mosle look for some stuff on http://www.craigslist.org/

My horse is Drooling A Lot...?

2010-05-21T18:40:00.002-07:00

Hi there, Well, My horse is drooling a lot recently, It's pretty thick and stuff, but he seems all right otherwise. The vet says he doesn't know what it could be and i'm getting worried. At first there was a touch of blood, So we figured it could be something in his Hay like Fox Tail that possibly got stuck in a tooth or his toung. There's no more blood, and there's nothing to see or feel. He's eating and drinking well, But i don't know... Anyone know what this could be? The vet seems to be a dumb ***, Scuse my language, And i am going to get another to come out, but i can't get an aquestrian vet until after the new year..... Anyone has any info please help, No mean answers please. this is Important to me... Very. He's my baby....

Thanks

My horse is Drooling A Lot...?
I have had this problem before. My horses were acting the exact same way you have described, and our vet said it was because of clover. Do you have a lot of clover in your pasture? it may be in your hay too. This definetely causes the horse to slobber excessively. My vet said not to worry and eventually it did go away. Trust me, we freaked out too at first, don't worry about it, just keep an eye on your horse and make sure he continues to act normal. Also, where are you located? if your in North Carolina, I would suggest Southridge Veterinary, thats the vet we use.
Reply:your vet doesn't seem to be the sharpest knife in the drawer. Anyways, there is a weed I think called slobber grass(not sure on the name) that may have gotten baled in your hey too. Doesn't really hurt the horse any, just makes him slobber all the time. That could be a possibility.
Reply:something is definately wrong, did your vet look inside his mouth real good, examine his teeth? under and around his tongue?

the only thing that comes to mind is maybe a bad tooth but you said he was eating okay

Good Luck hope the vet comes soon (have you noticed that horses only get sick on the weekends, holidays and at night?)
Reply:does he bite? and have u tried shudebakers? drooling and snoring usually mean hes sleeping well
Reply:Get an equestrian dentist out to have a look there might be a rotten tooth in there or a bit of hay or weed stuck or worse, and given he's a dentist he might have a few ideas to why your horse is drooling.
Reply:Have you changed his diet any?

He might be congested then he got over it by coughing it up

Has he been sneezing or coughing

it could be natural but i do suggest a new vet if you can't trust the one you have you always want a vet you can trust
Reply:Heavy clover content in your hay will cause a horse to slobber profusely. The slobber will be thick and stringy looking, maybe a little foamy around the lips. Ask your hay provider if he knows how much clover is in the hay. I have also seen blister beetles cause slobbering but you should see lesions in the mouth if that is the problem. Definitely have the teeth checked for points or infection but if that is clear and your horse doesn't go his feed then I would check into the hay further. If you want to save the vet call, get some pure alfalfa or timothy grass hay and feed for a couple days. If the horse quits slobbering then it was your hay.

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Is it ok to file a dog’s teeth with a hoof rasp?

2010-05-21T18:40:00.001-07:00

Is it ok to keep filing until the nerves are exposed? When he is thus rendered defenseless, is it ok to subject him to a brutal beating? It’s NOT acceptable, but it did happen.

Christopher Lee Barnett, of McMinnville, TN., beat his Siberian Husky, almost to death, and filed his teeth down until the nerves were exposed. Barnett makes his living working with horses and likely used a hoof rasp to do this damage to Lucas' teeth. When Lucas was finally rescued, it became clear that he had suffered multiple brutal beatings.

At this point, Barnett is only being charged with a misdemeanor. Tennesseeans Opposed To Animal Abuse is circling a petition in hopes of putting pressure on District Attorney Lisa Zavagiannis. They want his charges upgraded to a Class E Felony, Aggravated Animal Cruelty, under Tennessee Code Annotated (TCA) 39-14-212.

Is it ok to file a dog’s teeth with a hoof rasp?
I've signed the petition and written a nice little note to go along with it.

As for children being able to read this, perhaps those children's parents shouldn't be leaving them unsupervised on the internet. Also noting that I believe the minimum age to use this is 12 or 13. There are FAR worse things I have seen in questions on Y!A than this.

Danne - You are a moron. To say that Yahoo Answers users make up for 100% of dog fighters is absolutely ignorant. Most of those idiots probably can't even muster up the brain power to turn a computer on. I'm surprised you managed it.

ADD: Even if these online petitions aren't effective, at least someone is trying to do SOMETHING about this! I do agree that the posting could have been a bit less graphic now that I think about it, considering the link to the petition contains those details and a bit more. Online is the way to do things these days though...it's much easier and ten times faster and more convenient to get someone to type in their name than to get someone to sit down and write a formal letter.

ADD 2: No, you are right. I just think it is a good way to get knowledge of the case out there. Like the asker said, there is information for writing an actual letter along with the petition, and people may do so if they please. I suppose an online petition is not the most effective course of action, but as I said at least it is something.

Since the case is in the asker's hometown they will be able to actually bring the petition. Who knows, maybe it will have some effect. (Or affect. I always get those confused...)
Reply:my first thought on reading this question was ARE YOU CRAZY! then i read the whole question and really thought some people are crazy. where can i sign or even find this stupid person. he needs to locked up to save him from treatment.
Reply:If he had done this to a human, it would be a felony. It's sick, and disgusting to think someone would do this to a dog. He deserves severe punishment. Glad to see someone standing up for our 4 legged friends without a voice.
Reply:Personally I would have preferred not to have read this. I agree with Rosalie, there are younger children and such that can sit here and see this with no problem. It's a rather graphic description.

There's also the fact that it's been proven online petitions don't really do anything, if you want to help get out there with a physical piece of paper and some pens.

By and by though, quite a sick individual to do this. I shudder at the thought, and cuddle my Aussie girl.

Edit:

True enough Starz, though personally even I regret clicking this one.

Add:

Again true Starz, but online petitions are more of a way to make the person signing it feel like their doing something. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I have never seen an online petition get taken seriously by who ever or what ever the people are petitioning for or against.
Reply:I signed that petition and left a piece of my mind as well. Thanks for sharing. That monster needs to be locked up. People need to understand that people who would tortue an animal are sociopaths in the making!

Edit- Amen Starzoom!
Reply:signed.

it's just sickening what people do to animals..

if they can be that cruel and torture an animal, who is to say they wouldn't do it to a child or human if given the chance. I want mentally disturbed people off the streets.
Reply:I have always thought that the abuse of an animal should be dealt with harshly. It is just one step away from doing the same to HUMAN.
Reply:Oh baby, I was about to let you have it!!!!

Of course I will sign, and if I get around to it, write a petition.

I got a vio for a similar Q a few weeks ago. So I would pick BA quickly. It will still get seen.
Reply:signed!!! with a nice letter to go along with it.

Animal cruelty is so sad..
Reply:Wow, that did so much for me. I guess that you are talking to the right people, the ones who use YahooAnswers make up for 100% of dogfighters. Great job wasting your time.
Reply:First of all, I agree this question SHOULD be a violation.

I for one do not want to have such gfraphic toruredescribed where children can be reading it - or me, for that matter, so thanks so much for making my teeth hurt.

In addition, online petitions are at least as convenient for us as they are for the recipient - the only thing that will ever make s difference is a physical letter, sent to the investigator as well as to the prosecutor's office.

Stop doing this - it's as horrible in some ways as the crime.
Reply:Well why do you write so much in the first place and second of all hold on let me say this loud and clear ARE U CRAZY! I have no clue!!!

How do dentists refer to specific teeth?

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Hi :)

My son's just had his teeth inspected by the school dentist. He brought back a report that says he needs a filling in tooth 36.

Do I need to add here that I don't trust them?

So I counted his teeth .. he has 24 and a cavity in the 36th one ....

So I look it up on the internet .. humans get 32 .. horses get 36-44 maybe they have mixed up his paperwork?

Does anyone know where this number might have come from? I'd just like to know which one they're referring too so I can see if it's really necessary, he still has most of his baby teeth and no toothaches or problems - brushes his teeth religiously twice a day, eats well yada yada.

Anyway thanks for any help. If it makes any difference I'm in Australia .. dunno maybe Australian dentists count differently? LOL

Thanks!

Mandie

How do dentists refer to specific teeth?
The dentist's right. Different countries actually uses different codes. It's called FDI.

#36 (no. 3 6, not 36) is the lower left first molar. If it's obvious, you can actually spot out the cavity. It's usually with stains. However, if there is a cavity, the surface is actually sticky and dental professionals use a probe (a kind of instrument like a pencil) to check it. B4 you do anything, don't go poking at the cavity coz it can get deeper!

Just because there is no toothache, it doesn't mean that your son has no cavities. Once there's pain, it usually means that the bacteria has progressed to the pulp and things can get worse from there.

Don't worry, let the dentist fill up your son's tooth. He's trained and a professional. If you are still worried, you can always call the dental office. I'm sure there's a number on the report. =)
Reply:Maybe the dentist is wrong.. There is a numbering system for teeth 1 to 32. check out

http://www.ada.org/public/topics/tooth_n...

The dentist might have written the wrong number. or the handwriting might be illegible.

You can inspect his teeth to see which tooth has a cavity or consult some other local dentist.
Reply:I just had a bunch of teeth pulled and they called them by number. 7,8,9... the front uppers to the canine.
Reply:torching
Reply:Dentists refer to adult teeth by number and children's teeth by letter. This system has been in use for about 10 to 15 years, and is considered "universal".

I looking for a horse to buy, but it needs to be tough, econonical, and 13 to14hh. What breed should I get?

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It can't be tall (Yeah! - I'm short.), but it still needs to keep up with my brother's quarter horses in the heat, working for a living (just like me). Also, it needs to be perfectly solid colored, because the sun here causes problems on horses with any white on them (appys, paints, ect..) Even sorrels get skin cancer and die young here.

I have had 15 BLMs(4 were really good horses, and 1 was even some-what sane after 12 long, careful years of training), 3 Arabians(all were what you call "spirited"-LOL, and all had genetically bad teeth, health %26amp; allergies), 2 "Quarter Ponies"(bad health %26amp; lameness), 1 Quarter/Welsh cross( terrible health, allergies %26amp; lameness), and 1 Icelandic (loved him, but he couldn't take the climate). Please - all those can be wonderful - but they were NOT for me.

Someone sugested a buckskin South American Corrillo (spelling?), but those are very rare. Is there any other breed already in the US that you know of that could be a good friend, and working partner?

I looking for a horse to buy, but it needs to be tough, econonical, and 13 to14hh. What breed should I get?
Don't look at the breed. Look at the horse. BLMs usually do great- I have worked with one and know of 10 others- completely sane and dependable mounts.

Plus, if all of your horses get lameness issues, it is probably something you are doing.

What I suggest is getting a horse from a stable that raises their foals outside. We got 12 or so of our horses from some old lady up in MN- the mares and stallions were relatively tame, but the foals have never seen a person before. We would have to rope them to get them in the trailer and then tame them, but we have never had any healthy problems and they were very sure footed, and ended up practically bombproof. The breeds were drafts crosses and reg. QH and Paints.

I would just suggest getting a shorter QH- we were looking for a QH, and most that we find are around 14h, when we needed at least a 15h.
Reply:ever looked at a Dodge
Reply:You sure are a picky varmint. If you have had that much trouble with that many breeds of horses, I would tend to look at something other than the horse breed as being the problem. I have had horses my entire life and never had the kinds of problems you are talking about with any of them.
Reply:How about a Haflinger or Haflinger cross? They are like miniature Belgians, steady and gentle, and very strong.
Reply:where the hell do you live?
Reply:sounds like you need a better vet. quarters are know for hardyness, i have a friendly girl myself. she's sweet but she works hard. if you've gone through that many horses maybe you need to move to city and work behind a desk.
Reply:Who are you buying your horses from??????

Does the vet check your horses? Quarter Horse in my opinion is the best horse for work and there are some that are short. ITake care of it
Reply:You need to get a 4 wheeler. It is short, works hard, can keep up with your brothers horses in the heat, is easier to maintain and will not have all of the health issues you have described. Good Luck.
Reply:Haflinger or Fjord.
Reply:The sun can't cause that much problem--Texas is know for cowboys and sun and heat and their horses don't drop like flies. A sorrels skin is black same as a bay or black and it can't just be the color of the hair that causes the "cancer". A lot of white esp. on the face can burn and blister but I think the rest is bull. POA's are smaller and if your so bent on no color some are just a roan or almost solid. Mustang crosses can be small tooand are tough little buggers-I have 2 right now and both can keep up with my Arab but not for distance--more like a quarter horse.
Reply:All of the breeds you mentioned as owning are proven good breeds. If you are having problems getting them to "last", perhaps it's not the breed but how hard you are riding them, and how well you are taking care of them. Not trying to flame you, but if what you report is correct then your luck with horses is non-existent. ATV's may be best your bet. They never colic, they are short so easy for you to mount, economical and relatively cheap to feed.
Reply:go look at dreamhorse.com horsetopia.com equine.com equinhits.com equine now.com net equine.com I would go with a quater horse or arabian quater cross they are so sweet
Reply:Mustangs! They are loyal, hardworking, versatile, smart, easy to take care of, live in all kinds of weather, and you can find them in just about any color you want. I have a little mustang gelding from Nevada and he's really sweet and calm. He was trained on the ground (no riding), but he is still the sweetest and most bombproof horse we have. Also, they come in the size you want too.

What is the best way to tell how old a horse is?

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I am looking to buy a horse and found out that the sellers like to lie about the horses age. What are some good tricks? Anything besides the line on the tooth trick?

What is the best way to tell how old a horse is?
Alright, besides the teeth....which everyone else keeps saying, you can also tell an older horse by the horses conformation. If hes older usually the horses back will slope more then a 1-10 year old. Also, by hair color. If hes a chestnut, buckskin, sorrel ect.. and you see gray/white hairs on his muzzle, then hes probably older. Remember horses dint have to be in there 20's to get gray. But I think one of the best ways on how to spot an older horse, is the sway of the back. Good luck to you and I hope you find the horse of your dreams!
Reply:It's teeth
Reply:I would say probably by its teeth. Can you call a vet out to check?
Reply:take her to the vet maybe
Reply:ask him.

unless he's a liar, then don't waste your time. I hate lying horses!
Reply:count its teeth and subtract 16
Reply:ask him then muliply by 7.or you could cut off his head and count the rings.
Reply:how many candles are on its cake.
Reply:Count the rings around its butt.
Reply:BIRTH CERTIFICATE????????
Reply:ask him
Reply:the teeth. the more worn down they are, the older.
Reply:By their teeth!
Reply:ask the horse

ha,ha

funny
Reply:I don't know:

HEY EVERYONE READ MY JOKE!!!
Reply:teeth
Reply:By looking at it's teeth.
Reply:the smaller the teeth, the yonger the horse. the larger the teeth r for older horses. This way u r not going by the inside of the tooth. Take a horseman with u, to check the horse out.
Reply:You'll start to see it getting skinnier and it'll get really lazy and its walking pace is slowed down. Teaching a horse to kiss! The tooth thing works too.
Reply:Just go up to him and ask the fella. Horses aren't shy about telling their age at all.
Reply:Here is a great link for ya. I thought maybe you could copy this then take it with you as a reference guide as you look the teeth. Or, you could always ask your vet to come with you.

Hope this helps ya:)
Reply:really take some time to get to know the horse ...if you've handled horses you'll have a clue. is it broken in well? how well? how healthy is it's coat and main?how long is it's 'pony tail', how about the legs and hooves? older horses will tend to have scares and healed broken/spranged wounds, how active is it? and the teeth you just can't forget to look the more worn down they are the older the horse...... if your still not sure have a vet check it over they can give you an idea
Reply:The teeth are always the best way(how many they have, how worn down, etc.). Other than that, any graying in the face, mane, and tail, and how sway-back they are.
Reply:Yes,A lot of sellers will misrepresent horses,even drugging them to make them calmer and then once get get home and drugs were off you have your hands full.

Why not thinking about adopting.Most rescues are honest and do their best to match you up with a horse that will be best for you.If you want to,e-mail me and I can find a rescue near you for you consideration.
Reply:http://www.equisearch.com/horses_care/he...

by it's teeth.. it takes some time to be accurate and this is still only a close guess when the horse gets older.
Reply:have the horse vet checked before you purchase, the vet should be able to tell you how old the horse is. also if the horse is regestered the papers should say the DOB.

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Bit/Horse Training Help?!?

2010-05-21T18:39:00.001-07:00

Okay I'm training my horse for hunter jumper I got my trusty dusty nylon bridle-lol. I need to know what kind of bit I should use with her. She is a three year old and has a chipped tooth in front if that matters [pinto arab]. I'm going to Ace Tack so go to there website: www.acetack.com. What kind of bit should I get?? Or anything else for training my horse. Thanks!

Bit/Horse Training Help?!?
I always recommend starting any horse in a smooth snaffle. Most trainers will tell you the same. I love my O-rings and D-rings, I start my 2 year olds off in a smooth snaffle of either O or D ring, and then progress to the half twisted or full twisted wire snaffle.

Depending on your bridle you may also want to get a curb chain so your bit does not slide into your horses mouth. I also suggest getting Sport Medicine Boots and Bell Boots when riding. This is to protect your horse from any injuries.

Hope this helps and happy trails.
Reply:honestly it depends on the horse. soem horses are fine in a regular snaffle, but others may need something with a low port or shanks for stopping.if you horse has really good brakes and stops easily the try a d snaffle. you might find to that once you start jumping you need something a little stronger for slowing down. i can ride my horse on the flat with a d snaffle but he tends to get a little excited when jumping and doesnt have the good whoa on him. he still stops just takes a little bit longer.

Chipped Teeth?

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As i ride quite lively horses in my past i have had a few accidents and two are chipping my two front teeth. I've left them alone for years but lately i've been feeling awful knowing their there.

I've heard that with chips dentists can saw the tooth down to get rid of the chip with sand paper( my teeth are quite long so i wouldn't miss the length!!) is this true??

I don't want a massive things like caps and all that as i hate dentists and authority figures anyway, they scare me silly!!

So any help??

Also i need to find a new dentist dos anyone know for a good dentist in the llanelli area?? One for cowards would be appricated!!

Thanks I'm truely stuck as i don't want the surprise of the dentist saying this is going to take hours!!

I've had a nerve out before and that was awful!!

Chipped Teeth?
I don't know about a good dentist where you live but I can tell you that I have the same problem with the chipped front teeth. I lost some tooth enamel and my teeth got thin. That in addition to grand mal seizures and grinding caused damage to my teeth and they look awful. I have been told by my dentist that my teeth can be filed down. It's true that you could also have something done called bonding but having them filed down would be the easiest and probably the cheapest method.

If you wanted to go with something more extravagant you can have porcelain veneers done but they are super expensive and it's recommended you have at least the four front teeth done on the top and bottom because the veneers do make the teeth look a little bit thicker and those are the teeth that show the most.
Reply:Well, my friend tried to do the worm in a bar one night when we were hammered and well he kissed the ground and his teeth were shattered. OUCH, he has it all filled in and it looks good, no gaps or anything like that, couldnt tell he had an accident. You should probably start wearing a mouth piece BTW just in case.
Reply:it's called a filling. get one. i got one last year. it tickles... doesn't hurt at all. only took about half an hour.
Reply:I had a small chip on a front tooth, and I got an emery board and sanded it down myself--it looked fine and didn't hurt me! I do not know how deep your chips are. Let your new dentist know that you are now afraid of dental work. I did this, and for a cavity, they sent me to the children's dentist!!! I was over 50!!! Find a nearby dentist and let your dentist know your fear!

Never be afraid to let a doctor or dentist know you are afraid.

I promise you it will not be as bad as a root canal!!!
Reply:i have chipped a tooth befor and i was put out . it does not take hour s but under a half an hour.if u dont want to be put out u will regret that. i gerent you will look and feel better after u doit! good luck:)
Reply:I have heard of that but i have seen some too and the one i saw was not my cup of tea. I The bottom the the teeth were flat from the saw it did not look right. and they also sawed the eye teeth that made her teeth look false like old ppl. I would say if the chips are very small then go for it and do not let them touch your eye teeth. I would make the dentist explain eveyrthing to me before he touch me. Also you want to know how your teeth will look when he is done before he does it too.

Horse coughing when eating?

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My Arabian lately (last week or so) has been coughing and spitting some of his food back out when he eats. It is usually within his first 1 or 2 bites he starts "heaving" (I know horses can't throw up) and spits out his food but then he walks over and starts eating again with no problem. He does this with his SafeChoice and his grass hay. His teeth were floated just 2 weeks ago and passed his vet check with no problems. Any ideas?

Please, please no "Go see your vet" answers, only answer if you have a real constructive answer or advice. No I am not cheap, my vet bill for 2 horses and my burrow this month is already over $2,000 (floatings, shots, check ups and a castration + meds) so before I rush back in there and add to it I wanted to see if it is something I should be concerned about.

Thanks!

Horse coughing when eating?
To me it sounds a little like choke.

It he gobbling his feed? If he is, throw some large rocks in his feed pan to help slow down his eating.

I would also wet the pellets.

addition::::::::

It can depending on the size of the rocks you want to use lol.

What I would do, is seperate these animals while feeding if possible, maybe even tie the pushy animal up with his food. I know time factors can be hard.

The one that is possibly choking, spread his hay all out in the tub you use. Seperate it really good. Then throw the larger rocks in it too. That way, the rocks help hold some hay back as he takes bites, he won't get as big of a chunk as he would prior. I have no clue if it will work, but it won't hurt to try it.

Not sure how prevalent alfalfa hay is in your area, but maybe having more leaves and less stems might help??

I would still wet the hay to make it more easiability of going down.

Good luck, hope it helps.
Reply:Have you tried wetting his food and hay with some water? It seems to help those horses who have a "choke" problem. We have an old mare who has had her teeth floated, checked,etc. and also has a tear duct problem and we think her nasal passages were blocked with allergy reactions to the fall pollens. She was choking a lot until we started soaking her grain and her hay. No problem any longer!
Reply:Since he is going back and eating just fine that means it's not his teeth. But the coughing can be caused be some dust in the hay. This won't hurt your horse...only if it is moldy. Check the hay carefully (even if you just bought it) and look for any mold. Otherwise just keep an eye on him.
Reply:You always need to be careful when you get your horses teeth floated by a vet. even though they may be a good vet, most of them have not been taught the correct way to float. I personally use an equine dentist, a peerson who specailizes in horses teeth. I got my horse 'power floated' its kind of like the idea of an electric toothbrush, but to float horses' teeth. This cost me $130, its alot, but its worth it.

I might also suggest adding some wasrm water to his grain so he does not have to chew it as much, it will be softened. But this is only a temporary fix. I know you said you dot want to spend anymore money on the vet, but maybe just call him and tell him about this. If he says he is coming to see him that means this is serious and he NEEDS to come.

Also try wetting your hay a little bit, it might be a little dry and thus his coughing.

Good Luck!♥♥♥
Reply:It almost sounds as if your problem (because of it's timing) might be a direct result of the floating. There may be something that was missed that is sticking out or keeping the rest of the teeth in that area from coming together and doing their job and your horse may just be trying to swaller unchewed or poorly chewed food. Then he returns to his food and compensates and chews with his other side..I dunno, it just seems as though the timing of the onset of his symptoms points to something like this. Of course, it NEVER hurts to dampen your hay, to settle the dust, etc. I'm sure you have already checked your hay for mold or stickers or stuff that doesn't belong, you sound like a knowledgible, responsible pet owner. Have you tried just feeding him his hay first, no grain? If he chokes, then you know it is the hay, not the grain...net time, just feed the grain, no hay...that should help narrow it down. I don't know what shots he got, but some shots cause temp symptoms of what ailment that the shots are designed to avoid...flu, etc. The shots themselves may cause some kind of drainage, sinus, that would cause the choking..have you changed hay? I'm just dropping ideas that might spark an idea in your mind. I know this sounds crazy, but is there anyway, while being floated, that a part of a tooth got away and got lodged in the throat or side or somewhere that could cause the initial choking? when the hay is put in for your horse, is it putting off a lot of dust, whatever that might set off the coughing/choking thing? I hope that some of these ideas might help you think of something that will help.

*************After posting my answer, I found something that I thought might be interesting to you regarding choke...here is the url: http://www.horsetackreview.com/article-d...
Reply:try wetting his food...my horse had the same problem...he was perfectly healthy, but i guess he just ate too fast and he choked about 6 times everytime he ate. The vet bill was very expensive for that you can imagine. but ever since his food is wet he hasnt had any choking problems.

Also if you dont already have it...i would recommend getting your horses insured it is well worth it.
Reply:sounds like the hay could contain more dust this time than what he is used too....or the stem quality could be different...

if he is doing it with his grain also than he could still be adjusting to having his teeth floated!!! just keep your eye on him and make sure he is eating and not spitting it or coughing it all away and make sure he is drinking im sure he will be fine if you say your vet was out and said he is ok and you trust his judgement than your fine!! like i said could be the dust or the adjustment with his teeth!! good luck!!
Reply:Hmm. If he didn't do this before his thorough floating, maybe his teeth feel better now and he is gobbled a bit too much because he can now. The rocks need to be big enough that he can't get one and swallow it...about the size of a large apple is good, or a bit larger. If he had a clean bill of health, I doubt this is a sign of worms or a sore throat...either of which can cause this type of coughing besides choke. We've also had good luck using large chunks of mineral blocks for the "rocks" in the feed bucket and making sure the hay piles are very, very far apart to discourage theft impulses, or just evenly strewing the hay out in an area so there are no piles, it's more like a graze situation. I sure hope you get this figured out... your arab is making your life a bit too interesting, isn't he?? This is one reason we like the guys, there's never a dull moment.

Edit: Horses that have choked will suffer injury to their esophagus that causes swelling and soreness, causing more coughing. The feed needs to be in a pelleted form and soaked well to make a slurry. Hay must be chopped fine and can be added to the slurry. It may take a couple weeks for the injury to heal. If left, strictures can form, which may respond to vet treatment [they dilate the esophagus at the scar tissue caused by prolonged irritation over a period of treatments to provide relief].
Reply:it could be the dust in all of it. try soaking your hay, your vet probably knows how and can show you.
Reply:I had a 6 yr old paint that use to do that...she was just sensitive to the dust. So I would throw her hay down and soak it with the hose...She didn't get grain though. Best wishes.
Reply:im thinking maybe the hay is tooo dusty
Reply:damp his food

Is walking a gait that comprises four times? ,Should Horses be fed only once a day?,.?

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Is walking a gait that comprises four times?

a)True

b)false

c)Depends on Breed of horse.

Should Horses Be fed once a day

a)True

b)false

What are the last checks to be made before mounting a horse?

[ ]inspect horses teeth

[ ]Check that the horse has gone to the saddle\

[ ]Check the length of the stirrups

[ ]Check the girth

Please answer soon .

Is walking a gait that comprises four times? ,Should Horses be fed only once a day?,.?
- Does the curry comb have to be used in circular movements?

¤ Yes

- When we talk about a horse, we say that it has…

¤ legs

- Which parts of the human body does a horse not have?

¤ Toes

- What is the bit directly attached to?

¤ to the reins

¤ to the bridle mounts

- Is walking a gait that comprises four times?

¤ true

- Are horses mainly fearful or aggressive by nature?

¤ Fearful

- Two horses biting each other get on well.

¤ true

- A filly is a mare:

¤ under 4 years' old

- Horses must only be fed once a day

¤ False

- A horse's daily ration is mainly determined by its weight and the work it does

¤ True

- Before the invention of the steam engine, horses were the main mode of transport for humans.

¤ true

- Does the saddle have to be washed after each use?

¤ No

- Is it important to put drinking troughs for horses in the meadows when there is no natural water source?

¤ Yes

- What are the last checks to be done before mounting a horse?

¤ Check the length of the stirrups

¤ Check the harness

- Do horses have dentists?

¤ Yes

- How long was the longest mane?

¤ 5.5 m

- When I remove my horse's saddle, I have to…

¤ Pull up the stirrups

¤ Place the strap on the saddle to transport it

- In what order must these brushes be used to groom a horse properly?

¤ Curry comb - dandy brush - soft brush
Reply:The walk is a four-beat gait. When walking, a horse's legs follow this sequence: left hind leg, left front leg, right hind leg, right front leg, in a regular 1-2-3-4 beat.

Feeding is in your opinion...I feed mine grain 2X a day and hay all the time

Before riding always check cinch(girth) and make sure your stirrups are the right length
Reply:Howrse huh??

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Reply:True, walking is a 4-beat gait.

False, horses are natural grazers (which means they naturally eat almost constantly) and therefore should have access to food at multiple intervals throughout the day when kept in a stall.

The last step before mounting a horse is to check the girth one more time.
Reply:If your horse is pastured or has access to hay all day the feeding does't matter as much. If that is the only food it's getting however, once a day is a big no-no. It should get feedings as often as possible but never under any circumstances less than twice a day. The digestive systems of rumens (grazing) animals have developed over centuries to get small amounts of food constantly - not one huge occasional meal like a wolf or lion!

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Do I have to use warm water when bathing my horse?

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My well water comes out cold, sometimes really cold, like to the point where it makes your teeth "freeze" from drinking it. I want to bathe my horses, but I am afraid the water will shock them or make them really cold, maybe even cold numb their skin. Do I need to buy a hot wash system or can I just use the hose with my cold wateR?

Do I have to use warm water when bathing my horse?
This is the way that I judge the water tempature. If it is to cold for me to take a bath in, then it is to cold for them. Beside giving my horse the shivers, I really do not like washing them with numb hands from freezing water. I forgo the bath until it is at least above 80 degrees outside. Until then, I make do with with a bit more elbow grease on the brushes. Good Luck!
Reply:I don't have a horse.
Reply:I wash my horses with well water all the time- but ONLY when it's hot enough outside that they don't start shivering!

They seem to enjoy the cool bath during the heat of the summer.

If you want to bathe in early spring or late fall, when it's less than 80 degrees outside, you should, for the sake of their comfort, use warm water...

To warm the water some, you can buy black water hoses at the local hardware or Lowes type store- using 100 to 200' of black hose, laid out in the sun, and putting a spray nozzle on that stops the water flow when you're not using it, will warm it up quite a bit.
Reply:I bathe my horse in 'room temperature' water. If it is extremely cold as you say it is, then you ought to bring the temperature up.

Horses are living - warm blooded - animals that need to be treated just like the way we like to be treated.

If you bathe them in cold water you probably are already aware of this, you will see their skin tremble. Not a pretty sight. If they can speak probably they will swear at you...!!
Reply:It should be body temperature, ideally, as ice cold water to them is much like with us, not very pleasant.
Reply:The cold water is fine as long as it is warm out side. Horse survive in thirty degree weather when it raining so a bath is nothing.
Reply:ok i have horses and what i do is i make sure its a warm day of coarse and that the water is not freezing but not to warm also when giving a horse a bath at the beginning you should spray the water on their leg so they have time to get used to the temperature then work your way up to their neck and so on you want to wash the mane and tail and body but i would not do the forelock or the face because you might get soap in their eyes but you can spray some water on their face just make sure when you do the water is turned down low OK and that's how i give my horses baths just if your horse has not had a bath see if someone can hold it for the first time because just in case the horse tries to pull away or something and your welcome.
Reply:I use cold water, as long as it is over 65 degrees and sunny. We do not have a hot water system in our barn either. They are fine with the cold water (they might flinch at first, but so would I). If it is under 70, I just make it as quick as possible for them. In hotter days, I usually let it go longer, and they love it.
Reply:Make sure the horse is completely cooled off before giving the bath. Warm water is better. What temp has the horse usually been bathed in? you dont want sudden changes in temp. Always start washing a horse by spraying the hooves and slowly working your way up. If the water is too cold the horse will let you know. However, it is better to have the water be room temp, not "hot" or "freezing" but if thats not possible, you can fill a bucket with water and let it set until it warms up for a sponge bath! Sponge baths take longer, but are just as effective. Be sure to get all the soap off, mane and tail especially, or they will rub on fences and frey there hair!

Hope this helps!

Human teeth prove we are herbivores?

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I can't remember where I read this, it was a long time ago, but I read that the shape, placement, and limited ability of our teeth prove scientifically that we are not meant to eat meat.

Our teeth are flat and dull, ideal for tearing and chewing leaves, and our teeth closely compare to all animals who share our (vegetarian) diets, such as horses, giraffes...ect.

Not to mention the fact that all meat eating animals are able to digest raw meat, while we are unable to. And they have razor sharp teeth made for killing without the use of a weapon and tearing animal flesh.

Any thoughts (besides arguments without proof)? Also, anything to add to this?

Human teeth prove we are herbivores?
Scocasso and mousehet72 are absolutely right.

Human teeth are (and always have been) designed for plant food.

And apes like gorillas, orangutans and chimpanzees survive on plant food.

It is funny how some people admit apes and monkeys are genetically very close to us and give that as a reason for cruel medical testing on these animals - but when it comes to teeth they say we're different. They also seem to forget how smart and social these animals are, which results in a great psychological, as well as physical suffering of the poor lab animals.

Not only teeth, also the digestive system of humans is designed for plant food. The enzymes in our stomach and intestines are different to those of carnivorous animals and our intestines are very long and the meat does not only take very long to go through, but also begins decaying within our bodies, before it is secreted.

Humans (as well as Neanderthals, for that matter), had to eat meat to (try to) survive the Ice Age. Luckily, by then they knew how to use fire, so they cold cook the meat - as we cannot digest raw meat very well.

This is proven by the cave paintings - do you know of any human hunting activities before the Ice Age?

Now Ice Age was a kind of a natural catastrophe and special measures had to be taken in order to survive. But humans continue to eat meat!

It is like continuing to take medicine after you got well!

Below is a ling to an article, which says

--- "African mole rats, which live underground and eat starchy plant organs such as bulbs, have similar chemical signatures in their teeth to those of two ancient hominin species found at the same site, the new research shows. This suggests that they may have had similar diets."

--- "Hominins had teeth like ours, which were designed to eat something really, really hard, like small seeds — not tough grasses or raw meat"

--- and more

And the second link:

--- "During the warmer period in Eurasia and in the forests of tropical and subtropical Africa there was no reason to switch to meat. More than 100 food plant species suitable for primates are available in the equatorial forest."

--- and more

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Of course, this debate could go on for days... I hope that, in my answer, I managed to grasp the essence of the matter.

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EDIT.

OMG how heavy some people are. Those of you who describe our "incisors" and the rest of it: I would like to see you bite yourself through fur and skin and then chew raw meat.

Bollocks! Not only our teeth are not designed for that, but we do not have enough strength in our jaws and necks!

Grow up and open your eyes!
Reply:Truthfully,I could care less whether or not someone believes we are herbivorees, omnivores,or carnivores.We can survive perfectly fine without meat and that's all that really matters.So many people think that because we are classified as omnivores that means we HAVE to eat meat,they don't realize the difference between being able to and having to do something.I do agree that we do sem better suited as herbivores.I've read that human breastmilk is only 5% protein,an animal requiring to eat meat would have a much higher protein content.
Reply:If Darwin is correct we should look at the diets of our nearest wild cousins. I believe it is the orangutan. Just a thought.
Reply:Human teeth prove that we are Omnivores.

"Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances of survival for life on earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet."

Albert Einstein, physicist, Nobel Prize 1921

It is true, that evolution has caused humans to become more dependent on plants than animals. Our teeth point to an omnivorous diet of both plants and animals.

I think that humans, today, eat far to much meat. I wonder if all of the "I need meat" people would still need it so badly if they had to hunt for it using homemade tools and their two legs to track the animal. If a person actually researched about the meat industry these days, they would find there is a lot of proof that the costs of raising livestock for slaughter, the affects raising these high numbers of livestock has on the environment, the way meat reacts to most human bodies digestive systems, and a lot more... all point to a cost that far outweighs the benefits of eating the amount of meat consumed.
Reply:We may be able to eat meat, but not very well. We certainly cannot kill our own meat with our own natural tools. Could we even pick up a live rat and bite its head off -- no too tough and our jaws are just not strong enough, especially to tear into a larger animal as say, wolves or lions do. Just look at a dog that's the size of a human -- they can crush bones with their jaws (of course they usually bury them and dig up later to make this easier). All meat eaters jaws only move vertically -- they do not move horizontally as they rip and swallow chunks of meat, whereas animals that grind their food before chewing also have lateral as well as vertical movement (not to mention forward and back). Biology 101 will explain all about digestion and how that works in animal as well as humans. Sure, we can digest meat, and eating raw meat is easier to digest for us too (hence the raw meat eaters of the north), but again, eating such food requires tools. Sure, otters use rocks, and chimps use similar tools, but ... spears, knives, fire... I think such tools are far removed from using a rock to smash a nutshell or a coconut. We cannot even run fast enough to catch an animal without tools. Anyway, humans, and all animals are very complex. No one ever mentions all of the vegetation that meat eating animals consume. They do not survive on a 100% meat diet, as humans do not survive on a 100% vegetation diet. We, historically speaking, eat what is available to us and most natural for us to eat. There's a reason we have an aversion to killing, blood, etc. and there's a reason the screams of an animal in distress do not make our mouths water, so-to-speak. I don't know, there are lots of things to support a mostly vegetation diet.

Well, those are my contributions to the topic.
Reply:No, our teeth prove that we are omnivores.

Yes we have flat teeth for grinding, but we don't have ONLY those kinds of teeth. He have canines for gripping food and we have incisors for cutting. A human's teeth are designed to deal with a wide variety of foods. If you look at an herbivore's teeth you'll see they are all flat grinding teeth, like our molars. Any claims that human teeth prove we are herbivores is either mistaken, or vegatarian propaganda. We are designed to eat meat, we're just not designed to eat only meat.

Sure, we cook our food now, but I'm sure you've heard of "steak tartar"? That's raw hamburger, served as dinner.

And our "claws" are tools, instead of being built in.
Reply:it's just guesswork, it doesn't prove anything
Reply:"Humans are not and have never been carnivores. A lion is a carnivore as is a wolf, as is a tiger, or a shark. Carnivores eat live animals. They stalk them, they run them down, they pounce, they kill, and they eat blood-dripping meat at body temperature. Nature - brutal red in tooth and claw.

I've never met a human that can do that. Yes we found ways to run down animals and kill them. In fact, we've come to be rather efficient at the killing part. But we can't eat the prey until we cut it up and cook it - and that usually involves some time between kill and eating. It could be an hour or it could be years.

You see, our meat-eating habits are more closely related to the vulture, the jackal, or other carrion eaters. This means that we can't be described as carnivores. We are better described as NECROVORES - or eaters of rotting flesh."
Reply:history , ancient books , reality all prove that meat is good type of food for human being. so , I do not agree with such article. with my respect
Reply:We have incisors - the four sharp teeth on either side of our front teeth - used for meat.

Many people, in certain cultures can eat and digest raw meat - Japanese, Italians, for example.

In the Bible there are many examples of people eating and digesting meat - perhaps the earliest is Abraham who ate Rachel's goat stew.

True, there were many laws as to how meat could be eaten, but that was down to the fact of preservation, there was no refrigeration in those days, and the weather could be extremely hot. Therefore meat would obviously spoil. Therefore it needed cooking.

Stone age men would eat and digest meat until they discovered fire could change the meat. They have incisors.

Apes, Chimps, Gorillas, Monkeys ...... all have incisors.

So, sorry, but your arguments do not stand up.

Horse people -full moon last night?Horse owners?

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O.k. I have been off here a couple days due to fall shots,and having surgery on my tooth,and I must confess what is up with these new people on here?The normal and sane ones I am used are still giving their wonderful advice- you go girls!but some of these people who are asking questions are blowing my mind! especially the one's about blankets but the horse gets no food???and my horse is colicky-help......please tell me this is not what our beloved horses are living in now?o.k is it because it is the weekend and kiddies are out of school for fall break or is these silly yet scary questions normal these past few days.I have to laugh at them but yet I get kinda freaked out thinking that a horse is actually going through colic and his owner is up at the house asking help on the internet???

Horse people -full moon last night?Horse owners?
I'm glad to have read this as I was starting to think it was me . That I had the problem, and was wrong!

I cannot believe how ignorant some horse owners are, some are not fit to own a horse, and as you say, they are on here asking us for advice when they should be awaiting the arrival of the vet.

I had one of my replies reported for being rude, but the person I had made the comment about could have found themselves in Court for cruelty and neglect. I was not abusive but shocked! Some people don't like to hear the truth.

I really don't know what the horse world is coming to.

Call a spade a spade, and if someone is causing harm through ignorance and stupidity, then we must point it out because otherwise, we too are culpable. I don't mean, be abusive and OTT, but all this soft soap business is sickening, and it isn't going to help those poor animals.

Thank you for restoring my faith - you and a few others out there :D
Reply:Deep breath! I'm with you, but at least they are asking for help...we all had to start somewhere...but you are right. I feel like screaming CALL THE VET RIGHT NOW but to no avail, my cat looks at me like I'm crazy as I type and scream at the keyboard.
Reply:I think you're being a little hard on them. Some of the people who post on here are young and they want help. The horse may not have colic - it could just be rolling around and have a small cold. I hardly doubt that anyone who has access to a computer would let their horse simply fade away and suffer while there is so much information on the web.
Reply:Hehe,

*hugs* I totally understand!

Read my last question I posted, you will see I totally feel for you :)

Edit--no worries on the nasty remarks, sometimes the honest truth stings and they probably were some of the ones I was referring to
Reply:I think it is scary for some horses!!! I haven't been on really because there are too many (I'll be nice) uneducated people on lately..... or beating the dead horse question..... But I with you.
Reply:I just read that one about no hay, but a blanket........ Ohhh my lord. I feel sooooo bad for some of these horses!!!!! People are soooo ignorant. %26amp; I don't mean it to be mean, just honest.
Reply:Unfortunately its the sad reality. This is just a small taste on how many animals live with unexperienced owners and suffer from neglect. They think WOW! I got a horse, now what!? Oh I got a puppy, hes so cute but he pees in my house. Now what!? Should I feed them? Whats a vet? I got a dog but I can't afford to fix it! Should I call the vet if my horse has a big gash in his chest or will it heal?? So many neglected animals out there and I believe these retards on here really have no clue. I responded too the post with the colicing horse. Unbelievable! I don't get it! I feel sorry for all these animals with the owners that like to say "I have one".
Reply:Ugh, dealing w/ dental stuff huh? I feel for you! Hope ya get back to 100% soon.

As for 'Newbies' I gotta start somewhere!

But I know what ya mean, I read some of the questions, and not just here in horses, but in the other pets as well, and I cringe.

Maybe it's not all THAT bad....?*crosses fingers*
Reply:Lol, don't blame human stupidity on the full moon- it isn't the moon's fault.

I think that a lot of the answers come from younger kids with only a year or two experience riding a horse...or riding every 2 weeks or so. I have asked into some of the answers given, mainly because they scared me, and a lot of them were from people who either never owned a horse, or were ~12 and portraying themselves as older or an advanced/experienced rider/owner.

Some of the scariness does comes from people who will go on the internet and ask about colicking. A lot of people, in all species of animals (mainly dogs and horses come to mind), either just want the animal for boasting, or are getting into it with absolutely no experience whatsoever, and honestly do not know what to do. They may care deeply about their pet, but do not understand enough to give the pet the best of care. Another example is with people getting dogs, who abhor disciplining them, and wonder why the dog is attacking and biting them.

Most of the questions I answer on Answers have to do with simple training- teach the animal you are boss (by whatever method you choose) and most of the behavioral problems will go away.

Lump on my horse's jaw area?

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There's some king of lump on my horse's madibular bone. I think it's a tooth, my mom think's it's a little tumor and the manager at my stable say's it's a cacium deposit. It's about the size of a grape. It's feels hard and is somewhat atached to the jaw.

And yes, it is under the skin!!!

What do you think it is?

Lump on my horse's jaw area?
if the lump is close to the joint it probably is a calcium deposit like your manager said. if the horses eats pore quality hay or is in a pasture then it could be a sticker that got stuck in the horses mouth or under the skin and now it has festered. if that is the case it will soon pop and yellow pus will come out. if this happens wash it and it will heal on its own. in any case it might be a good idea to call the owner of the horse and see if you should take it to the vet for them.
Reply:How old is the horse?

Is it under the mandible bone, on the side, exactly where, your talking the largest bone in the horses body there.

Is it moveable, fixed, hard, soft?
Reply:Hey! How old is your horse? If he or she is in or over there prime age, it's not a tooth. I have been riding for 10 years and I have seen plenty calcium deposits but they are usually on the joints which is a form of arthritis. Your stable manager probably has a good idea. But.... a lump is a lump! My best advice is to get your vet to look at it soon. It could be an infection like an abscess which is just from bacteria and easily fixed. I wish you best of luck, and hope your horse is better soon!
Reply:sounds like an abcessed tooth...tell them to get a vet out there and check it out....my uncle's mare had an abcessed tooth and that's what it sounds like

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What is your opinion on a D-ring snaffle for a 17 year old Quarter horse that likes to throw his head up .....

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When you go to bit him. I have studied with the John Lyons seminar and I was wondering if molasses on the bit would help with this problem. I can't get the bit up and over his teeth and he rears even after a lathering lounge.Other than that he is quick to please. Any suggestions ????? Please note: this horse has not been bitted since 5 years of age so I am basically starting all over with the ground work and he gets out there and does his leads and voice commands great!

What is your opinion on a D-ring snaffle for a 17 year old Quarter horse that likes to throw his head up .....
You have to be very patient and, yes, I think that the molasses would help and the bit that you mentioned is probably just fine.
Reply:if he doesnt like bits that much try using a hackamore on him.
Reply:I agree with the hackamore. After all at 17 he hasn't got a whole lot of time left! Are you attempting to ride him? Why? Could be a bad tooth or a problem with his tongue.
Reply:Make sure he's had his teeth done, and if he has, I would think that he has had some rough handling around his mouth in the past. A D ring snaffle is gentle on his mouth, but thats not what he's worried about. He doesn't want it touching his teeth.

Get it to where you can put your fingers in his mouth without him getting worried. You do this by rubbing his muzzle slowly- he'll try to avoid you, but keep the contact on until he stops avoiding you. When he stops, move your hands away. Wait three seconds and try again. Eventually he'll figure out that if he stands still he gets what he wants- you leaving his mouth alone.

Then, very gently, put your fingers in through the corners of his mouth. You might need to do the "approach and retreat" method again, but eventually he won't fuss about it at all.

Get the bridle and hold it up. Keep it there until he brings his head down, then move it away. Wait three seconds and bring it back. He'll shove his head in the air, when he brings it down, move it away. Once he doesn't move his head up any more with the bridle in front of his face- very VERY GENTLY- put the bit in his mouth. Don't use it to direct him just yet, get him used to it being in his mouth first. Then, try some long reining (lunging with the long lines running from both sides of the bit, through the D rings, to your hands, to see how he handles the pressure on his mouth. Make sure that he is used to the lines sitting on his hocks first- it saves you from being kicked while he's trying to react to two things at once.

I can not emphasise enough that you need to be extremely gentle. You want to prove him wrong- that the bit isn't going to hurt him, and that he can trust you. Might I suggest getting a bit that is rubber coated at first? This way if you do accidentally hit his teeth, he won't say " See, I told you, it does hurt!!!", and you have to start again.

This does take time and endless patience, especially since he's had twelve years to think about how much he hates the bit, but it's really worth it. Once you've shown him, he'll be like " Oh, this boss of mine is sooo cool, they taught me not to be afraid".

I've done this with a abused horses in the past and it worked well.

Good Luck, hope it goes well.
Reply:If he hasn't been bitted since 5 years of age, I would take a very close look at his teeth before I placed anything in his mouth.

Teeth sharp? My mare would do the same and I addressed it to my vet. He took a look at her and looked at me and said "no wonder why. This mare needs floated". meaning, her teeth are sharp and need filed. She has an underbite and the way she grinds her teeth down are abnormal. Wise to check up on that just incase their is a problem.

Another thing is behavior. Inserting a bit in your mouth, I would image you be throwing your head too.

What I do is take the top of my bridle in my right hand and place my right hand inbetween my horse's ears at the poll. I would gently ask for them to lower it. If your horse is tall, get a step chair or have someone help you don't fall and injure yourself. I sometimes get on my truck's gate to do my oldest gelding. I'm a shortie and he is a tall horse. He doesn't back up or anything. Very sound. So, go with your best judgment.

I take my left hand at the left corner of the bit and adjust it so the bit is touching the lips of the horse, but not placing pressure to ask the horse to open. Usually after the horse's head goes up and down for abit and you not asking to open, the horse would mellow and stay still. (be stubburn at this point).

I would take my left hand and at the corner of the mouth, I would insert my finger where no teeth is present and tickle his tongue. Once he starts to open, I would place the bit in as his mouth is opening licking with tongue. I would place it in gently to not cause injury to teeth or gums.

Might take a few times, but usually I get it with in a few mins once I work on it.

The more I try to force the bit aggressivly, the more my horse get upset and can cause injury to their mouths.

I would also buy sweet iron, which is sweet. I bought a sweet iron D ring a few years ago and my gelding loved it.

sometimes I would place some apple juice or carrot juice on it. Sometimes I would put carrot or apple juice in brand, then place some brand on the bit. Unless I had a smart horse who know what I was doing, they usually took it.

Depends on the horse and their soundness.

I do think to switch from hackamore and D-ring bit until he is able to take at the bit. Especially in training purpose's. That helps him in stress and possible fear of the bit. I had an 8 year old gelding who would freak out when seeing a bit. So, I switched so he wouldn't get conditioned to bit=ride all the time. Or I would get the bit out, but only carry it so he didn't freak out thinking bit=ride either. (green broke in my view point and believe he was abused prior to the women buying him).

Please help! I need to know how to approach my boarding facility about feeding my horse more...?

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They are great people and really care about the horses. I prefer my horse to have more weight than he does and I don't want to offend them. I have mentioned a few times that I think he is too thin. He has good teeth and no known health problems. I have offered to buy feed and supplements. He is pastured boarded with others. I don't want to make things uncomfortable but I am starting to get worrried. I just would like some suggestions on how to approach the situation in a way that will be the most effective without being rude. There are very few facilities in the area and this is the best one, I would rather stay there. Any suggestions would be helpful, thanks!

Please help! I need to know how to approach my boarding facility about feeding my horse more...?
Take them aside so it's not done in front of other clients and just say that while you appreciate everything that they are doing (great job etc), that you think your horse just isn't keeping the weight on as well as the others and you'd like to increase his feed. Say that you are more than happy to pay for the additional cost and while you realize that it may make things a bit more complicated at feed time, you'd really appreciate it if they could work around it until he's got some more weight on his bones.

As you said, be polite, friendly, smile and look open but stay firm because you are paying them, not the other way around and they should be more than willing to help you with that.
Reply:AL -You understand where I am coming from TOTALLY, I'm glad I am not the only one who thinks this is a harder task than it seems in some situations. Thanks for the support! Report It

Reply:Give them an extra $10 a month and say you want him to be fed x amount of extra food.
Reply:Being direct and open about the your wishes is the best way. Tip-toeing around the subject, insinuating your wishes, etc. will get you exactly where you are. Unhappy.

You don't need to be rude to be direct and firm. Just tell them, in no uncertain terms exactly what you want done for your horse. Thats it.
Reply:As someone that has horses I would just tell them that you will pay more money for extra food. He should respect your choice as the owner of the horse. Your horse might just have high energy and burn off calories faster then others. Also you could start your horse on like a scoop of grain and weight builder daily. Those would both help
Reply:just be kind and striaght forward and thats all you gotta do..your are there boss so if your paying and arent satisfied then im pretty sure that they would want to do everything they can to please you
Reply:Just say to tem would they mind feeding him a but more with each feed. You shouldn`t feel bad because you only care about him. Just be really nice and try to pop it into a conversation or something. Good luck.xx
Reply:Easy...just tell them you want to up your horse's feed, then offer to pay a little more each month.

Make sure it gets done, though.

If there's a problem, buy your own bale and give the extra yourself, while the boarding facility continues to feed your horse what they are being paid to.

Since he's in a pasture-type thing he must be low in the pecking order %26amp; is being bullied away from his food.

Maybe board him in a corral by himself and get his weight up.
Reply:well, you leave a few things out of the situation... is he pasture boared, meaning no stall, no grain, or is he pasture boared meaning he goes out to pasture everyday and comes in at night......

i would be straightforard with the owner. Tell them that you want more weight on your horse and are going to feed him more. They won't mind at all. And if you want them to feed him more(if they already feed him any grain) then just tell them to up his measureings. It wont be any big deal.

if he;s just pasture boarded meaning, no stall and no grain, then they might expect you to do full boarding or feed him yourself.
Reply:You need to just tell them you'd like your horse to eat more as you are worried and like him a bit fatter. Offer to do a feeding yourself as this may be the problem. I know boarders who just bring their feed can with the supplements they want and the extra feeds rationed out already and they offer to pay extra for the extra work of giving the more customised feed rations or simply give it themselves. Pasture boarding makes it more complicated than stall board. I have one mare here who needs an extra ration daily, but the trick is giving it to her so I trained her to go into the round pen we have on one field. I put feeders up in there and I have to stand by and carry a whip to keep the rest of the herd from invading her space so she'll eat. It's a chore, but it's what we do here. Not every place can do that, so your help may be what's needed.
Reply:First of all, don't forget that THEY work for YOU. You want them to feed your horse more, tell that.

Now, why do you want your horse to eat more? Are you concerned about its health? If so, have a vet check it. If he thinks the horse is underweight, have him tell the borders to feed it more.

Good luck.
Reply:This is a hard question to answer because I still have a few questions. If he is pastured boarded, do they just eat grass or do they get grain and hay? Our horses are in the pasture all the time during the summer, however they have so much grass to eat that we don't have to feed them extra. We were actually told our one horse looked a little heavy compared to last year. If they get feed a certain amount each day, and you pay for the feed ask politely if they could increase the feed since you like your horse fatter. Also, since they are around they everyday they might not see a difference in the horses weight. I really don't think that the facility will think you are being rude if you just explain that he looks a little skinny and that you would like to increase the feed a little bit to see if he gains a little bit of weight. You might also ask someone else their opinion on whether they think the horse is two skinny, like a vet or a fairer who has seen the horse lately.
Reply:well, I think that if you're just honest, and say to them that you would like to feed your horse a bit more, because you would like to put a bit more weight on him, I'm sure they won't feel offending or anything, if they care about horses that much. Also, you are the owner of YOUR horse, and it's your decision. Fair enough you don't want to offend the yard owners, but I think if you're honest, and firm, but not rude, and just explain to them what you want done, and maybe even offer £10 or $10 (or whatever your currency is!) more each month, to pay for the extra feed.

good luck and I hope I helped!!! I hope it all goes well!!! =D
Reply:I just offered to buy the extra food myself when i had this problem. I know how you feel though because the same thing happened to me recently. It is really hard because you don't want your horse to suffer, but you don't wasnt the person to dislike you at the same time you dont want to be kicked out or anything. Go with you gut and just approach her calmly and politly when you are alone. Just make sure that what you decide to do is ok because YOU are the one paying board!

Moments that you've been looking forward to with your horse?

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Today Slew was 3 months post op and I'd been noticing how nasty and aggressive he's become just recently. This morning he lunged at me with teeth bared and he even refused to eat so I consulted with the vet and we decided that if he can buck and kick in his stall, he can go out for 15 mins 2X per day for a walk and grass. I doped him (only a small amount) and nearly put him on the floor but after waiting 20 mins, he was able to stop swaying and we went for a walk and then he grazed for 10 mins. Over the past 12 weeks, there were days when I wondered why I even started this or if he'd ever get out of that stall but finally we got there. Also submited a contract for a 25 acre farm with 2 barns and it's been accepted by the seller so I'm having a good day.

What trials have you been through with your horse only to come out the other side smiling and thinking - this might just have been worth it?

Moments that you've been looking forward to with your horse?
After being out of horses for several years, we dived back in by adopting a foal that had been rejected by his mother.

He was three days old. Did the IgG, he failed the passive transfer miserably, so we transfused him.

Too late, he developed septicemia. (I'd never heard of it before) It was a grueling regimine for weeks. Shots that gave him ulcers that required meds...trips to the vet to drain his swollen hocks...

I lived for the day the vet would tell us he was out of the woods. Many weeks and dollars later, it came. Poor guy, he is still a notorious hard keeper (we suspect adhesions from the ulcers causing malabsorption) and now has DSLD, so he is Pasture art, but he is a delight and we love him.
Reply:ride with it in a a park on a sunny day
Reply:When I bought my horse he was scared of everything and had been abused. I couldn't get a bit in his mouth and it took 5 minutes of coaxing everytime I wanted to rub his face. He had never experienced anything and was scared of everything. Now, he smacks his lips for the bit, drools when I rub his face and, even though I sometimes have to get off and walk him up to things, he is starting to really trust me. He is 7 years old and learning to canter with a rider now. We have come so far in the short time I have had him but we still have lots of obstacles to overcome thanks to his his old, neglectful owners...and I look forward to every minute of it :)
Reply:I am currently riding a school horse who bucked, he was nasty about it, he'd buck like 3 or 4 times jst cantering around the ring, I stuck through with him though, and finally we figured out what is wrong, and he is great now. :] I want him to be a safe, reliable school horse.
Reply:I don't know yet... my horse is running soon for the first time this month. Ask this question again in a month, LOL Congrats for you though girl! I'm sure your beside yourself. Awesome!
Reply:the first time i rode my horse, i hated him. i saw him as a strong headed brat who was taking advantage of me. my trainer made me tough it out though. i got galloped away with once and flew off once. i'm really glad that she made me stick with it though because my horse is my world. he gets me through everything, the good and the bad, the cute and the ugly. he's my guardian angel. can't imagine life without him :-)
Reply:We had a freak accident...and thought we would have to put hubby's horse down. The horse bolted through our fence, down the road, across another road, and flipped over the neighbor's barbed wire fence. He also hit that fence in the corner where they used 8 inch poles as pulling panels. He sheared off one of the poles at the ground. Then, still in a blind panic...bolts around their field...that is filled with garbage and balls of barbed wire everywhere.

Of course, I'm watching this happen...and then horse finds hole in fence and disappears into the woods. By the time I get to the neighbor's field...horse is coming back home. [Left his mare behind!] He's limping and covered in blood. Face is cut, neck, sides, buttocks, and every leg, and 6 inches of bone is showing on his lower rear leg. The skin was hanging over his hoof. We slowly walk home, leaving blood on the road at every step. And some nice stranger called my vet, so he was on his way before I ever got home.

We were so afraid that was it. Well, he gets doctored and medicated and the wait begins. One of the tendons was sheared in half too. Had 2 infections set in at different times, so had to do 3 rounds of antibiotics, deal with proud flesh, and took 14 months to completely close the wound. First time we rode him...went for a walk around the "block." He was tight in that leg, and we figured it always would be. But now, 2 years later...you'd never know anything was wrong with him. Except for the big scar. It was worth all the time, tears, money and work to get him back.

This horse still drives me crazy with his antics, but he's never going anywhere. We really do love him.
Reply:LOL... i love some peoples answers... dianes in particular... lol... I think the best moment i have had recently was when my little project colt won his first race... we have a very high turn over stable... if the babies dont cut it they are turned over and sent to sales...i honestly try to keep out of the buisness and just ride my track work... but when in my opinion this great little colt came along about 15mnths ago i couldn't let the trainer resell him... i copped alot of flack from pleading to keep the colt in my work lot.... and he raced shocking first start... but he got there and won his first race a little while ago... wish i'd had the money to buy him... coz he's now gone down to melbs to race with the big boys.... so exciting for his owners...
Reply:well, chroem has been going lame on and off for the past month, adn now she's fine in time for our big show this weekend! yay!

we (me and my trainer) are also fixing her shoulder- diving- into- turns problem, and it has cost me my poor shins (!) and dq'ing patterns (at each show, on average we dq 2 or 3 out of 5 patterns). she's still really bad, but we're getting there!
Reply:This is a little bit diferent type of story but it works:

I was about 8 when this happen, and I still have my pony Black Jack, and love him to pieces! I am too big to truly ride him, but we go in a little walk every so often, just picture a 5' 11" girl atop a 12.1hh pony, and you have me!

I am a Dressage rider, but my pony loves to jump, so one day I was like Ok, I want to jump! well... I fell off and as I was falling I was like this was stupid...BAM!!!! ok, so now it has grown from stupid to ignorant!, I fell flat on my back had the wind knocked out of me, couldn't breath for a few seconds, and i had brused my back all up! while I was laying their crying (hey it hurt) and yelling at how stupid it was to do that (my mom was standing their, but I don't remember that part) and my pony, my baby, walked up to me who was laying on the ground all sprawled out, so carfully he put his head down at me s if to say "why on earth did you come off, I did everything perfect? Why are you laying down their? Why are you crying? What's wrong? Are you ok?...." with this curious worry.I grabed on to his kneck and he helped me up and decided I would do it again and again until I didn't fall off! Well the next 3 or 4 trys i came flying off, and the same thing happen, he came over and helped me up and finally I made it over! I'm not sure I would have kept going if I knew how badly it was going to hurt the next few days!!! But every time i fell off (doing anything) this little confused, worried and friendly face showed up by my side to say, ok, lets do it again, but this time how about you stay on?
Reply:DIANA DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT SHE WAS ASKING ABOUT?YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT THE QUESTION WAS!
Reply:Wow - I bet that was wonderful - just to see him outside after all this time.

Well done.

My horse has shiverleg - obviously not something that 's going to heal but when I first got him he was so inflexible and shaky that the farrier used to lean him against a wall to do his back feet and it was practically impossible to pick them out. I put him on the high fat diet as recommended and just kept at it. One morning I turned him out into the field and watched him walk halfway up and then roll - roll - that was the big thing, until then I had never seen this horse roll or lie down, that was when I knew that the high fat diet was working. I watched and then had to run in and tell everybody I was so happy !
Reply:When my father was alive, I used to always look forward to riding with him. It was nice - good bonding time. Now that my daughter is learning to ride, I really look forward to riding with her this year. Horses are way to much work to not have something fun to look forward to.

Good job with your horse. I know you've had a rough road with it. I hope he keeps doing well.

And for anyone who says "Thats nice, but what trial have you been through?" I train Mustangs. And not only is that really hard work - thanks to the economy and the over abundance of horses on the market - there are less and less people that can afford a trainer. So for all the trips to the emergency room, or the financial burdens of running your own business in a market that is going through a hard time - when I get to pass horseback riding on to my kids, that makes me think the whole thing has been worth it.
Reply:I'm looking forward to getting my pony home!

I bought him as a 2-year-old; he's now 11. He was intended to be my fabulous show pony - he's a Highland, and all bias aside he's an absolutely cracking pony and I knew when I first saw him that he could go to the very top. My mother took him when I was pregnant with my now 2 1/2 year old, which is when he was really coming out in the open classes. She got quite ill though, and passed him onto a friend of mine, I moved away, my mother died, I had another baby... etc etc etc.

Pony had a bad accident in the field last summer, and broke both his splint bones in one of his hinds. The vets decided not to operate because the fractures (2 in one bone, 1 in the other) were so close to the suspensory ligament. He was in the hospital for 2 weeks, then had 6 weeks on strict box rest, only coming out his stable to step into the one next door while he was mucked out. After that he was allowed short (10 min) walks in hand, still kept on box rest. After around a month of short walks he was allowed into a 20ft x 20ft paddock for 4 hours a day.

Shortly after going into the paddock he came down with colic and was taken back into the equine hospital. His bowel had perforated, he had septicaemia, and the vets couldn't tell us if he was going to pull through or not. He spent 3 weeks there and when he came out he'd lost a horrific amount of weight and was emaciated. He couldn't go into a stable because he's not allowed to eat hay (it's too dry, even when soaked, and could cause enormous damage to the bowel) so despite the leg not being properly healed he went into about an acre with a calm companion.

In January this year he'd gained condition and the leg was strong enough that he could start coming back into work. He's been taking it slowly and can now go for around half an hour's walk with a small amount of trot. He'll never go hunting again, but I'm not counting my chickens regarding the rest of his workload.

The whole time he's been with my diamond of a friend - there's no way I would've been able to cope with him plus this very difficult new baby, and she's done so much for both of us. If it wasn't for her, I probably would've lost him. He's coming back to me the first week in April and I can't wait.

(Eesh, that was long! Sorry!)
Reply:First off let me say YAY! slew is getting better! Seocondly congrats on the farm offer being accepted. hubby and i just moved into out new digs and we couldn't be happier so I know with 25 acres you will be tickled pink!!!! Now on to answer your question. my little paint mare was injured pretty badly back in march of 2006. Punctured her digital flexor tendon sheath and it got infected BAD before we knew anythign about it having happened. By the time we caught the injury (it was such a small punture wound on her fetlock we couldn't see it) her poor lil leg was swelled clear up to her knee. Vet thought we'd have to put her down but we went through very agressive antibiotic treatments , daily cleaning , flushing , applying NFZ and DMSO and compression wraps for about 6 weeks until all the infection had gone and the puncture had healed. Thought we were out of the woods but the first time we turned her back out her leg swelled up hUGE again! Back to square one with the compression wraps and ice tight poltice. she was on stall rest for almost 8 months!!! Only allowe dot be hand grazed and walked. From March to October she was allowed no turn out b/c each time she was turned out loose she reaggrivated the injury. In Oct vet came out and we xrayed and thotughly checked her leg. He pronounced her sound and said the next day we could start turning her out a little each time. The first time she was able to be turned out I was grinning from ear to ear b/c she ran and bucked and snorted and kicked and had a good ole time. What's more is when she came back to the barn huffing anf happy her leg was NOT swlloen!!! a MIRACLE!!!! It was deifnately worth it seeing as how I actually helped deliver her when she was born and she was basically like my daughter. I was so scared she wouldn't recover. She is now expecting her first baby so I'll be a grandma! lol I don't ride her much since theinjury as she does tend to flare up a little in the leg if I ride extensively but she's good for short hacks and with her bloodlines and personality I can just raise my next barrel horse out of her. Definately worth all the expense we wnt through with her.
Reply:When I bought my horse Pete, everyone warned me NOT to buy him because he was a "problem". I worked at a trail barn and he would try to bite and kick other horses and people but if i rode him I had no problems. So I bought him for $500. I gave him 6 months off ( i was very pregnant) to enjoy being a horse. after i had my baby I started riding him and he would have a little bit of an attitude but got out of it. I can do anything on this horse ( jump, trails, show whatever) The best part about him is the fact that I can put my 3 year old daughter on him and not worry about a thing and he lets her lead him around the farm and everything. The joy on my childs face everytime she rides him makes him worth every penny I spent.
Reply:aww, poor guy. well, i would most definitely be sour if i was cooped up like that as well. especially if i was doped up sometimes.

its just like i always say, why have one horse when you can have 300 under your hood. dont get a horse, get a camaro! lol jk

but yeah, if its what you really want, keep it up. only you know if its what you want for sure. you seem very passionate about it, and it would kill me to see you give up on such things you care about so much.

.....next time i watch your little hell raiser, tell me more about this 2 barn farm! thats great!!

i my self am not having such a fine day. i bet you can guess why. its prob the first thing that comes to mind.
Reply:Get thee to a good trainer and quickly!!!! Your horse is now the alpha horse and you need help getting him in line before somebody gets hurt. THEN you WILL have fun and be glad you have him!

Adding water to your feed all the time hurt your horse? but I also use rice bran powder too!?

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My horse has problems with keeping weight on so I switched his diet and added extra stuff. He has problems chewing but we got his teeth floated and they are fine. I switched him over to this rice bran powder and it is doing wonders. But I was told by someone that using water all the time will affect them. I don't think it can but I was wanting to get other peoples opinions first.

Adding water to your feed all the time hurt your horse? but I also use rice bran powder too!?
All thats good. My sister has a horse who is definitely one of those that are hard to keep FAT lol. My sister works at a feed store where they deal Nutrina products. There is this new stuff called Empower. and it has done WONDERS to this mare. Dont get me wrong the #1 ingredient is rice bran, and it has a huge tendancy to make a horse HOT if not ridden or exercised. Here its about 22$/ 50lb bag please dont let the price scare you, this stuff does wonders for fattening up a horse!! Hope this helps, if not, it was worth a try!
Reply:iceni:

We use a mixture of alfalfa, senior, beet pulp, and weight booster. We add water and feed. It works wonders! Is it true that beet pulp should soak for an hour!!!! No one told us that before. Please advise. Report It

Reply:It would.
Reply:How could using water in feed affect your horse? No, don't worry about it's fine. Water in feed is good thing - stops the feed swelling when it mixes with your horse's saliva and reduces the risk of choke.

Barley is also great for keeping on weight and very non-heating - needs soaking, though.
Reply:Water by itself will just bloat him. It also tends to wash out a certain portion of the water-soluble vitamins in the feed. Water gain is not healthy body-building.
Reply:It can not hurt the horse. No worries
Reply:The extra water on the feed is a good thing especially in the winter when they tend to drink less. You will never have to worry about dehydration. It is fine to wet the feed. In older horses who have teeth problems or do not chew well watering the feed helps alot. They will not gain water weight.

Rice bran is great stuff and works very well for putting on and keepin weight on a horse. Add fat to the diet is a good wat to get extra calories with making you horse hot.

It makes their coat shinny also.
Reply:As long as the feed doesn't sit for a long period adding water will not be a problem. With an older horse I would suggest adding beet pulp to his regular feed - it has to be soaked in water for an hour or so before feeding it but it is easily digested, soft, and is a very good source of fiber and carbohydrates.
Reply:No, it can't. Three horses at my barn get water in there food at every meal and nothing has ever happened to them. It actually can help prevent colic.

flip flops

Americans - are those your own teeth???.............?

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......or are you breakin them in for a horse?

Sorry but theyre dazzlin my eyes and they look ridiculous.

I'm english and no-one is ever dazzled by our teeth. Thanks.

Americans - are those your own teeth???.............?
well...i have to say i've never heard of anyone being dazzled by english teeth...no. my teeth are my own. maybe you're talking about the zoom bleaching.
Reply:hehe... look out Lozzo
Reply:jodi marsh...
Reply:Only the rich in America have dazzling teeth. Most Americans can't afford dental treatment. Just take a look at some chat shows in America, half the audience have teeth missing. This is the way we are going in the UK. Treatment and care for the rich, and basic services for the plebs. Lloyd George would turn in his grave!
Reply:i am dazzled by Simon Cowel's teeth lol
Reply:even if you don't have good Dental, you can have wonderful teeth. Flossing (I don't floss every day even though I should, maybe 3x a week), and quickly brushing your teeth and rinsing after drinking soda or something sugary will stop decay.. (as well as normal brushing in the morning and at night)
Reply:Even Simon Cowl has them.
Reply:Are you talking about the tooth size? Because you may be referring to those who have bad veneers or bad crowns...sometimes they are way too big! My teeth are my own and I am not breaking them in for a horse...are breaking yours in for Austin Powers?

Should i use a bit on my new horse for the first ride?

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i basicly know the answer to this qustion but my new horse is 25 years old and i just saved him from a trail riding ranch were he could not do 8 hour days no more hes very gentel and calm and i plan on riding him in the round pin tonight for the first time but he does not want to put a bit in his mouth so i was thinking of riding him for the first time with a halter probably not a good idea but considering his back ground i doubt he would do anything and i feel bad for him i was told he might have been abused a bit but he does get real excited when i put his saddle on hes eyes light up just like when he gets hes grain and meds in the morning its kind of funny anyway who thinks i should use a a bit for the first time are should i even use one at all also i cant get his dentist to come by for another week so his teeth might hurt him and may need to be floated

Should i use a bit on my new horse for the first ride?
In a round pen, he may be just fine without a bit. However, you would have NO control if he decided to bolt..so wear a helmet.

I would have someone lead him for the first time if I was riding without a bit, to make sure he remains calm. Some horses will freak out if they don't have that measure of control, as they have always had it when being ridden.

He would likely do best with the bitless bridle, such as the hackamore, such as these%26gt; http://www.bitlessequitation.co.uk/bitle...

http://www.moonrakerqh.com/tack/gfx/hack...

http://www.moonrakerqh.com/tack/bridles....

http://www.plasequestrian.co.uk/images/e...

I rode for many years using such a bridle, and had even better control than with a bit, on a horse from the racetracks. Your oldster has likely had his mouth abused by novices for many years, and may really appreciate and respond better to such as this%26gt; http://www.bit-free.com/home.html Also, older horses do have teeth problems, so it may well be why he is stubborn about accepting your bit.

Why can't my 16 year old quarter horse gain weight?

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BlackJack has been power wormed and had his teeth floated. When i feed him twice a day gain with alfha pellets and a senior feed vitamin sauce topper along with corn or veggie oil from the store, he gains but if i dont then he begans to lose weight. I'm all out of ideals and i love this horse alot and want to keep him. so please help me with some of your ideals.

Why can't my 16 year old quarter horse gain weight?
Maybe he has a tape worm.
Reply:maybe she has a tape worm inside of her body somewhere.
Reply:might have worms........have a vet come out to look at the horse
Reply:Why dont u call a vet u love da horse so money aint a factor is it x
Reply:Well you have obviously done the worm thing.

I would want to know two things, is this a young horse and perhaps it is growing and will look out of proportion for a while.

If no,, does this horse share a feild with other animals and if yes is there condition okay..

All so is this horse out side and perhaps not handling cold weather. Horses are odd and the smallest ailment can make them loose weight.
Reply:contact your vet, he might have worms or some other "disease" If he doesn't have worms, he might just be that way, so I would give him weight builder or something or ask your vet to perscribe him something.
Reply:Have you had routine bloodwork run to make sure there isn't an underlying medical condition? Have you treated for ulcers? Is he getting harassed by herdmates? There are many many issues that can cause weight issues in horses. I would say that you've started well, but a vet and chiropractic check may be in order to make sure there aren't any other medical issues. If those clear, your vet and other local horsemen would be your best bet as they would likely know more about not only the medical condition of your horse, but also the herd/social condition, the environment, the roughage quality, etc... Best of luck!
Reply:If he's gaining when you feed them pellets, why aren't you keeping him on them? Senior horses have different nutritional needs than other horses. I suggest looking at senior horse feeds. They are formulated for the older horse and have different quantities of fat, protein, and vitamins %26amp; minerals for the senior horse.
Reply:Older horses often have problems keeping weight on. Is it a problem to feed him twice a day, because if he gains when you do this it makes sense to keep it up. We fed our 29yr old according to what he could manage as he had bad teeth and kept him round and shiny by changing his diet. If your chap has a good appetite it is likely that he isnt getting enough nutrient from his forage. Poor pasture and poor hay are usually to blame so analyse your soil and hay to see if the problem lies there. Soaked sugar beet is good for putting weight on poor horses, and can safely be fed with the other ration up to half a bucketful a day.
Reply:I agree with the other answers and I would also consider te weather. If it is cold, the food you feed will be used to keep him warm rather than put weight on, so make sure he is kept warm and well rugged up.
Reply:I would try another wormer as it sounds like a tape worm to me, if you have already tried that give your vet a call

Weight gain supplements/advice for older horse?

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I have a 22 year old AQHA mare who recently dropped alot of weight for no reason. She is with her daughter [9 year old AQHA mare] in the same pasture [the pasture is eaten down with little grass left] and they get the same amount of hay [1/2 bale a day] and the same amount of senior feed [appox. 4 cups a day w/vitamin mixed in] but the older horse is underweight and the other one is perfect. I dewormed both appox. 2 months ago [will do again soon] and checked their teeth. I also watched the older mare eat and made sure she wasn't dropping food or having any pain swallowing/chewing. I just can't figure out what to do because for the past 3 weeks I increased their hay a little and for the older mare I added more senior feed, corn oil and a weight gai supplement and she has barely gained an once on her. If you have any tips on how to get my older mare to gain approx. 50-90 pounds or any great products to help let me know. Thank you!

Weight gain supplements/advice for older horse?
A sudden drop in weight in a 22 year old horse at this time of year is very unlikely to be a feeding issue so don't begin to spend heaps of money buying expensive supplements just yet.

1) Did you have a dentist/vet check the teeth? If not then this should be done first.

2) Have a faecal worm egg count done - just because you have wormed her doesn't mean she can't have worms. Also, have you wormed for all 3 classes (roundworms, tapeworms AND encysted redworms)?

3) Failing the above two you need to have her seen by your vet. She needs looking at physically and also blood testing. Top things that cause sudden weight loss in older horses are liver disease, enteric disease (guts, intestines etc) and Cushings. Your mare is the right age for all three. There may be something else evident on examination such as a tooth root abscess.

Please don't pile lots of food into her yet - rule out the above problems first as most of them are entirely treatable and it's a waste of money over-feeding your mare if she can't use the food you give her.
Reply:First, you should probably have the vet out to check her, especially her teeth even though you don't see any problems there.

Second, can you separate them at feeding? The younger mare could be chasing the older one away from the hay. Or the older one might simply eat slower, and not get enough. And give your older mare more hay. Soaked beet pulp might be good too. I use it for my 22 year old TB, and she's done great on it.

Comment on the above post: sugar is BAD for horses. You are risking founder if your horse is eating sugars.
Reply:I highly recommend Nutrena Senior...and I don't think that 4 cups per day is enough. Ask your vet to recommend how many POUNDS of feed and hay your horse needs to gain weight...and advance her slowly to this amount. Vegetable Oil added to the feed is a good source of fat...and remember. shivering burns valuable calories...is she getting enough hay to stay warm (it's what keeps them warm)..is she out of the wind and cold...does she have a warm blanket. These things can save precious calories. Hope this helps
Reply:Molasses and alfalfa or beet pulp. Beet pulp really helps to fatten them up and they love it. Has your horse been sick lately? Diarrhea or colic or anything? If she has then she may have just not felt like eating. It also could have been a bad reaction to the wormer. Was it a new brand or type? My horse wouldn't eat for a day and had diarrhea for the next few days after I wormed him. Did she lose the weight all at once or gradually? If it was very sudden, and is still happening, I would call the vet.

Best of luck!
Reply:Cool Calories 100 or Cool Cal is DEFINATELY the best fattening supplement you could get for your money and quality's worth. =] I have a 10 year old thoroughbred gelding and he had lost some weight (since thoroughbred's can lose like 100 lbs. in one day!) :O and I put him on Cool Calories and it worked miracles. He not only gained weight but it also made his skin shiner/not dry and he appeared healthier and so on. =] I would also up her grain beacause 4 cups is not enough for an 1,000 pound animal. :P I think you did that...? lol. =] Well I hope this was helpful! God bless you! And I hope your mare gains weight soon! =]]
Reply:If you have a LMF distributor in your area try Lmf taco pellets it is great I have used it on several starved horses including a ex rave horse we rescued that was about 400 pounds under weight and it plumped him up pretty quick.
Reply:Change her hay to haylege, seniors find it easier to eat and it contains more calories than hay. It will also help with her water intake as it is more most than hay, and they love it too! I would also add oil to her feed, this will give her a lot of extra slow release calories and you can slowly build horses up to take in quite a lot of oil, alot of people use this for weight gain. If she still isn't gaining weight phone the Vet and get a second opinion.

Also this website has some good feeding advice:

http://www.veteran-horse-welfare.co.uk/
Reply:I would feed her a Senior feed and supplement with a soybean based supplement for weight gain. I agree that you should have a Veterinarian check her out as older horses need to be checked out more frequently. (Like older human )
Reply:I would suggest the above advice about teeth and worming. I feed several senior citizens and they get a mash of their senior feed, beet pulp, and hay cubes as well as their usual hay. Softening it up helps them get all the benefit of the food. Though, 22 isnt all THAT old. What I do is mix all the dry items in the feed tub, then I cover it with hot water and let it sit until room temperature. About 20 minutes. Then feed. They slurp it up and all my old horses look slick and sassy.
Reply:Everything you are doing sounds just fine, however I would have a vet check her teeth just to be on the safe side if you havent done that yet. The other thing that I have done for my older mares was I put them on a calf manna supplement. It was suggested to me with a 21 yr old mare about 6 yrs back.She was getting ribby and I thought for sure it was getting close to her time because of her condition. I didnt know what this horse had been threw because she was givin to me a few months before this by a guy who said he was going to shoot her if knowone tookher. His problem was the horse kept jumping an breaking the fence. I went over and got her and brought her home as a rescue. It was suggested to me about the calf manna supplement by a lady at the feed store. I had no hopes it would work as it sounded so wierd and I thought that was only for calves. Boy was I wrong and she gained her weight back within about 2 1/2 months. I dont know what else I can suggest to you but I wish you good luck.... oh yeah I sprinkled the supplement over the feed.

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How do i get my horse to put his head down for western pleasure?

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He is a 4 year old qh gelding.He doesnt have a bad headset it just needs improvment.Hes been in a bosal for a year b/c he has to get his wolf teeth pulled.He is getting them pulled tomorrow and i want to start training with a bit.

How do i slow down his lope and trot and get his headset right? If any of you have trained a young horse to do this i'd really like some tips.I plan to show him next summer.Just small local shows.

Thanks!!!

How do i get my horse to put his head down for western pleasure?
Start slow. It takes a whole for a horse to be able to stay in the correct pleasure frame. Get him started at a walk and shake his down (light see saw on the reins). When he puts it there, release the pressure. Same with a jog and a lope. Hands low. Toes out and roll your spur up his ribcage to get him to pick up his back into the pleasure horse arch. If his back is rounded, his head will go down, and his gait will slow. If his back is hollow, then his head will be up, and he will be strung out in the back and feel like he is going faster. Get the back arched and it will feel like a whole different horse. If my horse is not performing the speed, like I ask, then he comes off the rail and worls harder. Then I ask him to slow and go back to the rail. He figures it out pretty quick that the rail is a "go slow" spot and will then look for it and slow while he is on it. Stopping and starting at different intervals make a horse slow down on the rail, since they are pausing slightly looking for your stop cue. I know this just barely touches the surface, but these are some of the things that I use when I train my pleasure horses. Good Luck!
Reply:Oh man, you walked right into that one!
Reply:martingale, gradually lowering it until he keeps his head in place....
Reply:try a nose band and trot him over posts lying on the ground but place them for the trot you want takes a lot of patience
Reply:Without seeing you ride it sounds to me like your horse is evading the snaffle because he's in pain. Many people don't realize it but snaffles can be harsh bits. Any bit can be really if your horse doesn't like it. Your horse may be resisting because he doesn't like all the pressure in his mouth instead of his poll and chin.

Look for a snaffle that has the same mouthpiece. It may also depend on which rein you use primarily on the pelham.

Don't forget to give your horse time to adjust either. It will take time for him to readjust to the different pressures he's feeling in his mouth. You may get help from the horse lovers%26amp;friends community " http://sweetsugerbabes.zoomshare.com/fil... "GOOD LUCK

The Best Thing For My Horse?

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I have 2 questions.

What is the best thing I can do for my horse to asure that he has a long, happy life?

Right now he is 26 %26amp; he is not showing any signs of artherits. His back is not swayed %26amp; his feet %26amp; teeth are in good condition. Over all he is in great health. I was wondering what I can do to prevent artherits %26amp; if he ever did get it what I could to to ease the pain?

The Best Thing For My Horse?
I love natural products, they work wonders.

Keep him off of sweet-feed. Horses don't need candy. It will not bode well for his digestion track or teeth (It doesn't for people either!)

A fabulous replacement for sweet-feed is black oil sunflower seeds.

http://www.harrisonsbirdfoods.com/produc...

I get mine from this sight and I like them a lot. My horse does too :-).

It sounds like you are doing a great job! For an old horse like that to not have a swayed back and have such good feet is fabulous! Keep up the good work :-)

Something I've noticed about animals is that they tend to live longer if they have a good relationship with their human :-).

My bird lived three years past what she was supposed to, and I think it's because we had such a good relationship. It sounds like you and your horse and doing wonderful :-).

Obviously no heavy work, but a nice stroll down the street or if you have access to a trail would do him good too :-).

Enjoy your old pal, they're the best.
Reply:You can put him on a supplement and feed for senior horses. Also, make sure he gets plenty of exersice but dont work him too hard. Good Luck
Reply:Ride him often, but don't ride rough. Just a good exercise. Make sure you walk him and cool him properly after you ride. Feed him lots of apples and throw in an orange every now and then for a lil something different. Love him and pay attention to him. That will help most.
Reply:you should give him a joint supplement just in case.....www.horse.com has tons to choose from. If he ever does get artherits then give him some bute or horse asprin.

****whenever you ride him wrap all 4 of his legs in polo wraps.....It protects his legs and I also heard that it helps horses from going lame. I know it's a lot of wrapping but doing this (and putting on special shoes) has helped my mare (who had leg problems) so much that I can barrel race her!
Reply:I would stop the sweet feed and just use the senior feed along with good hay. You can stop all that outer stuff when you are feeding a good quality senior feed. I do put a salt/mineral block in the pasture. They know instinctively if they need it.

You cant stop the onset of arthritis . If we could I would jump all over that for myself! But once he shows signs of it , you can use a supplement for his joints and inflammation . Talk to your vet about it after his next visit. Have him watch your horse walk out and ck his weight. Its good to have another set of eyes once in a while.
Reply:I have two 26 year old horses. The best thing to do is keep updated on all the usual, teeth feet and shots. Also keep using them not hard but make sure they have a job, it keeps them interested in life. I make sure they have a buddy, but only in their own age group. A younger horse can get too carried away with play and that is when injury can occur. The final thing is to keep an open mind and when the time comes they are going down hill, let them keep their dignity and make the choice to euthanize them.

How do i get a horse to gain weight?

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i have a 16 year old throughbread and he is just amazing and i can not get him to gain weight he has had his teeth done and his insides are just fine there is just nothing that i can do to get this horse to gain weight and when i do it does not last very lond i need help i do not understand is you can write back at jj200498@YAHOO.COM

How do i get a horse to gain weight?
i have two Thoroughbred eventers,there not old but i have a hard time keeping weight on them,mine are quite skittish so they loose weight through stress.this works for me.

i feed mine high fibre cubes which give slow releasing energy,alfa a which is a dry grass and sugar beet.

i also add blue chip which is a pelleted supplement and is non heating,this helps keep there weight on with out making them to flighty.

my horses have haylage as well as its a great way of putting on weight,its like hay but the nutritional content is higher.

if your Thoroughbred is older the sixteen plus which is made by spillers horse feed might help its slow releasing and for the older horse as well.

baileys horse feed and dob son and horrel do a mix and cubes for the older horse,blue chip or equilibra another feed balancer and weight gain are great supplements.

it really depends on your thoroughbreds personality and if hes laid back and quiet to ride you could add boiled barley.its in a dry form then you boil it for two hours and it looks like sweet corn,i would never give my horses the normal barley as it would make then hyper and unreadable.
Reply:What are you feeding him ?, have you tried adding barley to his hard feed, most manufacturers such as Bailey's do barley rings and cubes. I had an anglo arab who lost weight easily and had to have barley added to his feed to help combat this
Reply:sit on him!
Reply:I have owned a throughbread and he did the same thing. I'll hit you on email.......
Reply:Try a senior feed. Check your email I sent you for a recipe.
Reply:more activity + more beans
Reply:I suggest beet pulp - we used it for a long time with my first horse, who always lost a lot of weight in the winter. You can buy beet pulp at feed stores. Feed a bunch of it (the guys at the feed store can probably tell you exactly how much) mixed in with the horse's grain every day or at every meal. Soak the pulp first; it comes dry, but when the horse eats it it can expand in their digestive tract and cause colic, so make sure it gets saturated before you feed it.

My other suggestion would be hay cubes. Hay cubes are basically just squares of compacted hay, but you can break them up and feed them along with grain. They are just another way of getting more roughage into your horses diet.

Finally, you can always go for a grain that is high in fat, such as Ultium. The only problem with this method is that in some horses (especially thoroughbreds) they get extremely "hot" and energetic and need much more exercise so that they don't get stir-crazy.
Reply:I am a polo groom and like your horse most of mine are thoroughbreds. I had one mare that was always a real hard keeper. I made a mash using beat pulp and alpha cube. Make sure you water it down the beat pulp allot, since it expands when wet.

I like, and have had good results with Equine Senior as well.

Both of these, put on weight without making your horse high as a kite on grain. You can use them together or separately.
Reply:Mix a good senior feed with beet pulp. Soak the beet pulp in water so it is not too dry and is more palatable. You can't colic them on beet pulp. It adds calories and is low-energy. I have two rescue horses I feed a 16 percent all-purpose, all grain and plant based feed mixed with ground corn and soaked beet pulp. It is working! Also try adding wheat bran or rice bran to his feed. Have you treated him for sand colic - by using psyllium husks (Metamucil or you can buy a horse desanding agent - same thing).
Reply:How do you know his insides are just fine? have you checked for worms? Worm damage affects digestion and the ability to absorb nutrients. A few suggestions:

Get him checked over by the vet, and a feacal sample taken for worm egg count. This will identify type and extent of worm infestation in any. The vet may want to do blood tests too.

Dont let the horse get cold - suitable rugs and shelter are needed in some of the weather we've been having.

Feed ad lib good quality hay if he is not in fast work.- or haylage if it doesn;t give him the runs

Try adding sunflower oil to his feeds - a tablespoon a time.

Use a weigh tape and check him weekly - at this time of year most horses are putting on weight with the good grass.

Don't stress him out when he is working - fast work and stress eat up calories.

Feed little and often - four feeds a day if you can manage it. Dont change his feeds suddenly - his digestion will suffer.

Good luck
Reply:barley or you can get a feed called coat %26amp; condition horse feed that needs to be soaked thats good. Beet pulp is often fed as a supplement because it is high in fiber which the horse can turn into energy and body fat. the shreaded beet doesn't need to be soaked for as long as the beet pellet so i would recomend it.

http://horses.about.com/od/feedingyourho...

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Reply:Barley is good for weight gain and bran - i find that baileys no.17 which is a non heated topline mix has worked wonders for my TB mare - who looked really poor last year - she cannot be grazed on brilliant grass as she gets colic - so she has 2 feeds per day - 2 slices o fhay in the day and then goes out in the evening - i also find that whilst she is being fed the correct amout to what she works - keeping them fit always helps better than a horse that doesn't do much - i try and do something every night - especially hill work as this really builds up muscle, your find the fitter she is the better her appetitie will be - good luck and i hope this helps!
Reply:beet pulp is a great food for helping horses gain andmaintan weight - obviously make sure its soaked sufficiently first though

Alphafa is another good feed - you can buy these from most feed merchants.

A good few hours grazing per day can also aid in weight gain.

Is your horse in hard work? If so he may not be getting enough food to replace the energy he is burning off - perhaps try increasing his feeds from one to two or two to three a day?

you say healthwise he's fine - so really its not just a matter of finding whats right for him and sticking to it!

xx
Reply:email me on aussie_rider_2003@yahoo.com.au i have ahorse with the sam eproblem, TB and all.

It depends on the feed, and if he's hungry, if your in australia, there are apetite feeds to help him feel hungry, add some molasses or some grain, feed plenty of bulk

contact me and i can o into with more detail!
Reply:Just to be on the safe side, I would get a full profile blood sample done on him, just to eliminate any underlying problems. If that is all clear, I would strongly recomend Bailey's number 1. It needs to be fed damp but it is none heating and has seemed to work fablously for any 'bad doers' that I have had. All the best.

Skinny 37 year old horse!!!?

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I have a 37 year old horse who has dropped alot of weight in the past few weeks. We have had the vet out to her, he does not think her teeth are a problem, which is what i initially thought. He doesnt seem to think there is anything wrong health wise, but possibly with age she isnt absorbing as many nutrients from feed as she should. He has given me a vitamin paste to add to her feeds.

I was after some advice on what to feed her. I am currently feeding weight lifter, but was wondering if there is anything better out there??????

We do know that feeding may not work, but we are going to give it a good shot...

Skinny 37 year old horse!!!?
I would definitely try SENIOR -- It has good nutrition and is very easy for the horse to digest. Also, try giving your horse EQUISHINE. It has all of the vitamins and supplements that your horse needs and it's great for all ages of horses (just give your horse one scoop once a day and it should be fine).

I would have your vet look at your horse as well, but not at the weight. Many horses will get a disease or cancer and drastically lose a lot of weight in just a few weeks time. That's one of the first signs of cancer. It's probably just because your horse is older, but it's always better to be safe than sorry:)

Other than that, I'd give your horse SENIOR and EQUISHINE with a little extra grain.

I hope this helps and good luck with your horse!:)
Reply:With my older horses I have always fed Equine Senior which is made by Purina. It's a really good senior feed which is easily digestible for the older guys.Here's a link that will give you more information. Good luck!!

http://horse.purina-mills.com/products/e...
Reply:Put him on a senior mix and have a word with your vet

Food

We have a 30-yr old horse w/cushings who has a hard time keeping weight. What could help keep weight on him?

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We give this horse two full large scoops of sr. horse feed twice a day. He has free access to hay all day. We does drop feed when eating, and we've tried to have his teeth floated, but the vet said there wasn't enough to float. He does snuffle up the food he drops, so he does actually eat all that he's given. We know his age and the cushings is working against him, but we were hoping there may be something we could do to help him gain some weight. We do not ride him; he is a pasture buddy. We've read about beet pulp, but we've not been able to locate a place that sells it. We've also read about Triple Crown feed; but again, we've not found a place to order it from. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

We have a 30-yr old horse w/cushings who has a hard time keeping weight. What could help keep weight on him?
I had a Cushings horse that had trouble keeping weight on. I used Farnam's Weight Builder supplement to help. There are now also some supplements on the market for Cushings horses. Try Smart Pak. http://www.smartpakequine.com/ They have experts to help you find the right supplements for your situation and can ship them to you in ready packs for easy feeding. Or you can buy in bulk if you prefer.

You've already got him on senior feed and free choice hay so that's good. The only other thing I would suggest is maybe trying to feed him more times per day. I know that may be inconvenient, but I think two scoops of grain is a lot for a horse to try and eat at one time. More smaller meals would be easier on his system if you can do it. There are some feed dispensers available that you can set up and program when and how much to dispense.
Reply:You could also talk to your feed store about ordering some. Have you tried buying a weight gainer. Or adding corn oil to his feed? Black oil sunflower seeds help as well.
Reply:I'm pretty sure there are suppliments out there to encourage weight gain. Try places like TSC or Buckely and Bro's for feed, suppliments, and I would expect that one (if not both) has beet pulp.
Reply:my sister had a horse over 30 also when we got him he sand coliced the vet had to come out and told us he would not live he has seen horses 2 years old not survive this but the little angel did live

she feed him alpha cubes soaked in water three times a day and she gave him equine Senior grain also three times a day he gained weight and looked amazing

i hope this helped and good luck with your guy
Reply:You could give him "Weight Builder" or "Weight Gain" I have used both of these in the past for my 9 year old mare and they work really well. You can geet them on line of at your local feed store. Good Luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply:I would make sure I used senior feed pellets, maybe moisten them with water so he can slurp them up. Also weight gain additive is excellent. I would also check that he has high protein hay, such as alfalfa with no stems, as that would prick his gums and that wouldn't be good. At 30 he should have no teeth to float--at least not the grinders. I have a 30 yr. old and is doing great on senior feed, alfalfa, and probiotics...Fast track is the best so they get alot of nutrients from what they eat. If he has Cushings, I am told to eliminate starch?carbs. Mine is getting Cushings, but I am staying with what he is getting now.
Reply:Stabilized rice bran pellets is high in fat content, and goes very well with beet pulp. Those two are your best bet.

Weight gain supplements may be of use in this case... he'd likely enjoy Cool Calories, as many do because of its sugary taste!
Reply:I had this horse a few years back named Midnight,

and he was really old and had cushings.

She would put weight builder in his food,

some wheatgerm oil on it. then it was softer.

%26amp;senior feed.

I have also heard that if you feed a horse dogfood,

they gain weight.

But i have not tried that since it is so oily %26amp; made our one Mini so sick one time.

But that is all i know, i hope i helped some(:

GoodLuck.
Reply:if you want give him really fattening foods and make sure he doesn't get enough exercise that would take off the fat but enough so that he does get exercise.
Reply:Weetbix is meant to be good for weight gain!!

good luck

What is the horse grooming tool I describe?

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It has saw teeth between two handles and when not in use is curved, a rainbow shape.

I've read on-line and looked at photos of grooming gear.

Think I've hear that a curry comb is not a comb but a brush.

i would like to know as much as I can before I encounter the actual horse: two Percheron mares, actually!

What is the horse grooming tool I describe?
There are many types of 'curry combs', 'sheading blades', and 'groom-a'.

* Sheading Blades have two handles with a blade in the middle. some have teeth on both sides. One side maybe sharper then the other. (if your horse has sensitive skin use the less sharp.)

Some have teeth on one side and a smooth side. The smooth side can double as a sweat scrapperor to remove water after a bath. The teeth side is great to remove the winter coat in the spring.

If the teeth are small it feels great to a horse after a sweaty workout to take care of the itchy spots. LISTEN TO YOUR HORSE SHE WILL TELL YOU WHAT SHE LIKES.

*Curry Combs have one handle and two blades one side has sharper teeth then the other. Two blades mean double the hair removal. This is the one I prefer for removing winter hair in the spring.

*A rubber curry comb is in an oval shape with rubber teeth much like the metal curry comb except it fits into the palm of your hand.

*A rubber gromm-a or also called a rubber curry has larger squishy teeth usually square in shapeand the teeth a spaced further apart. This is best used in cicular motions over the horses body to help loosen the hair and dirt. It is a great year-round curry. I use it to help when our horses are sheading their winter coat and their summer coat. In the spring use it with a metal curry comb to REALLY increase the removal of a horses winter coat.

Happy Grooming !!
Reply:Sounds like a shedding Blade to me. A God send in the spring! (Removes winter hair like there's no tomorrow).
Reply:It's a shedding blade, used to help take excess hair off the horse; excess being a winter coat in spring.

A curry comb is a round, rubber brush with fat rubber 'teeth'.

It's commonly called a curry.
Reply:It is a shedding blade. i agree with the first comment good to get rid of winter coat in summer.
Reply:A shedding blade
Reply:yup, shedding blade...and it can also double as a sweat scraper if you turn it over and use the flat side! (great for after baths or on trail rides when they get sweaty)
Reply:http://images.google.com/images?hl=en%26amp;q=...

does it look like this??
Reply:shedding blade

great for this time of the year

lots of hair to deal with
Reply:It's a shedding blade. they are used to help with shedding, since htey are able to get more hair out, i use one on my school horse that i ride.

a curry comb is a plastic oval shape with little like 'teeth' i suppose.
Reply:shedding blade. a horse-owners best friend after winter. i actually used one on my horses today :]
Reply:Shedding blade
Reply:it sounds like you're desribing a shedding blade. It's like a gift form God during Spring when horses shed the most. It also comes in handy for removing dried dirt on a horse's coat. This website might help you:

http://www.equusite.com/articles/basics/...

What do you think of my horse? and is it normal for them to change colour?

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Ok, i got a free horse last year, she's now a 18 yr old TB beginners horse. For the last 6 months or so i've left her in the paddock because of the EI outbreak and to get her to put on some weight before I ride her again as she was really poor when we got her. When we first got her she was a coppery bay colour and really thin, then we had her teeth done recently put on a fair bit of condition then turned brown. Now she had changed again to a really dark brown almost black colour. Is this normal and is it from getting more nutrients/minerals etc. we're feeding her 1 biscuit of lucerne per day with equilibrium along with being in the paddock 24/7. Also, what are the best foods to give TB's to gain condition and not make them hyperactive. We've tried weight lifter, but that made her lose hair from her body in clumps, so we ditched that pretty quick. She is generally very good and hasnt really displayed any stupid behaviour when I ride her and such, but just in case as TB's are supposed to

What do you think of my horse? and is it normal for them to change colour?
It is perfectly normal for horses coat colors to change to a degree throughout the year. I have a bay thoroughbred who seems to go from a very light bay that almost looks buckskin in the summer when turnout daily, to a dark almost blood bay if stalled frequently. He also will turn to a medium bay in the winter, after he's grown his winter coat. I've also heard that a lot of it has to do with nutrition... I've heard that when your horse has a darker, shinier or dappled coat, they are "healthier", but of course a horse left out to pasture for extended periods of time in the sun, will have a lighter and less shinny coat from sun bleaching regardless of their health.
Reply:Horses changing color is perfectly normal. Most bays fade in the sun. Most horses that you see are grey were born black. Appaloosa, for example, change from one year to the next every year. I had a bucksking app who is now the most gorgeous white-ish, brown-ish,black-ish, horse that you have ever seen. As for the weight i think there is something called like bucky or something. Beat pulp also helps older horses put on weight
Reply:course it is... it could be from fading and because of how healthy she is now. as horses get ill for a long period of time, they lose the sheen and their coat color starts to dull. Now that you have fattened her up, she is healthy and her coat is shiny again.
Reply:When was the last time you groomed her? A good wash in the summer time(winter time is too cold) would also be good too but it is normal because when horses age they may change color.
Reply:perfectly normal my horse changes color to so its fine
Reply:I would suggest beet pulp for putting on weight. I feed it to my TB, and it doesn't make her hot. I feed about 3 cups, soaked, which makes quite a bit!
Reply:i would try shreeded beet pulp to put on weight. it helps their digestion too, by the way. flax seed oil would help her coat if you want her coat any better. it's likely she was just down on nutrients and good grass, so her coat got dull. also if you got her in the summer and it changed thruout the winter, that's normal too, i had a black horse who completely bayed out in the summer cuz of the sun...

anyway hope the answers work for you!
Reply:horses change with the seasons my guy is a sorrel

and he goes from a copper color to almost a burnt

orange in the summer all depends on the amount

on sun they get

your horse looks good i would just give her oats

and whole corn that way she won't get to hyper
Reply:yep totally agree with most responces, that it is quite normal for the horse to change color to the various seasons. I have an Appaloosa mare, that quite frankely has changed to every color under the sun hence the nickname horse of a thousand colors.! As for the feed, try Copprice (M) mature. It's great weight gainer or Mitavite is another, both of my horse bulk up on that feed. I aslo have an Arab and he's on the heavy side at the moment, so i have had to knock back their hard feed and put them on grass/oaten hay. You can try a little bit of seaweed meal in their feed as it's fantastic for their coates. They come out super shiny.

Why does my horse love me one day and hate me the next?

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I have a 5 yr old QH gelding for 8 mos. now (that is the extent of my horse knowledge). The first 4 months of ownership he and I were awesome, he never showed any signs of aggression. In Dec everything changed (vet checked, no pain). He acts like he is ignoring me when I am at the gate or in the pasture unless the alpha gelding approaches me he stays away. Even when the alpha gelding is next to me my QH will stay behind him and not even look at me. He is fine with me haltering, leading, backing up, grooming, etc, but if I am at the gate with a treat or his feed he always has his ears pinned. Yesterday while he was eating he started kicking the ground and I squared up my shoulders and walked over with a stern NO! he pinned his ears and shot his head over the fence at me (his teeth were not showing) I corrected him for this (cuz I am alpha) and today he is truly acting like he hates me. I don't want to give up, but I am at a loose of how to take this and what to do next.

Why does my horse love me one day and hate me the next?
Oh my cat dous the same thing. animals are Sociopaths.

they have to get their way, and if u do the littleist thing, they get kinda mad. This dous not mean pamper your horse like ur it's slave. Just don't let it get to u
Reply:Maybe when you first got him you loved him so much that you brought him a lot of treats. Have you stopped doin this? Check with your vet about this, maybe you leave him in the barn to long, they get bored when not rode enough. GOOD LUCK!
Reply:Your horse may know that the alpha gelding doesn't like him near the gate and stay away because of this, my old mare used to do the same in that situation.

Kicking out with a front foot while feeding is him being defensive of his feed, make sure you feed him well away from other horses and just stay out of the way, telling him off may make him feel threatened and make it worse.

Turning your back on him may feel dangerous but if you feel he isn't agressive, relaxing your shoulders and turning away shows you aren't agressive, my Mum's gelding is very frightened at times and if I turn my back to him he comes to me.

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What is wrong with my horse?

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My horse pulls its head down all the time and chumps on the bit! Does it need its teeth floated or a different bit or what can i do to stop it?

What is wrong with my horse?
try tightning the headstall and when was the last time his/her teeth floated? that is very important b/c if their teeth aren't floated, it can lead to some MAJOR mouth problems!!!

the peices on the sides of the headstall running to the bit should be tight enough to where you can see 3 wrinkles on each side of the outside of the horse's mouth.
Reply:Is the bit sitting in the correct place? What bit are you using? Is it the correct size? Is this a new problem? Please add some more info so we can try to help!
Reply:I would suggest that you get him/ her checked over by a vet making sure teeth are checked.
Reply:if it's a well behaved horse than giveit a hackamore.
Reply:everytime your horse does that make sure that you use your legs and kick or sqeeze to make him start moving
Reply:How old is he .My horse is completely healthyand his bit works fine and fits eprfectly yet he does it.
Reply:I'd say get a riding lesson to have someone who knows riding watch you from the ground. A horse I was training used to do that but I found if I rode her on a soft but steady contact she'd be ok, she'd just chomp down on the bit if I didn't hold her lightly.
Reply:Sounds like his teeth. I'd call your vet and have his teeth checked they probably need floated.

Riding a spoiled horse...?

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I am riding a spoilt horse who is not violent, just pushy. He was never asked to do ANYTHING ( except be haltered and groomed twice a week) until he was 6, and he was broken in. How do I get him to listen to me without whacking him really hard, I have to either squeeze lightly and he goes, the next time he doesnt and just explodes at teh lightest touch. And yes saddle teeth and back have been checked.

Although we ride in an open paddock, he never goes to bolt, just tosses his head high and goes to nuck. Is he taking advantage or not understanding? I am being consistent.

Help!!!!

Riding a spoiled horse...?
Your horse sounds exactly like mine when i first got him. He was five and had never been worked. It was his way or the highway.

The answer is that you have to be pushy, if he's pushy. Don't let him get away with stupid stuff. But always remember that he's only six and two in his mind. Young horses come with silly habits that they with get over with time. The head tossing could be one of those things.

I also believe that it's 50 / 50 as far as understanding and not understanding. But be patient and consistent and someday you and your horse will make a great team. Ohhh...and if your not taking lesson i would recommend them. They helped me and my horse a lot.
Reply:You have to ride stronger, be more agressive. When he gets pushy, get pushy also. Im not saying to beat him, but get after him so he understands you are supposed to be the one in charge.

It sounds like most of his problem is that he has never had someone make him do what they wanted him to do, they just let him push them around.

When he goes to buck, pick his head up, and push him forward. If he is tossing his head, you may have to be lighter on your reins, or it could have been someone before you who rode him and was on his his mouth. You might want to try a tiedown on him if you ride western, and maybe a martingale or daisy reins if you ride english, to keep his head down more.

Hope This Helps!

Good Luck!

*Barrel Racer*
Reply:Hire a trainer before you get really hurt. No amount of chatting with someone can solve a dangerous situation. This horse needs alot of ground work, serious ground work before you should ever get on him. I don't mean just lunging. A good trainer can put some time and effort on this horse and will get him to the point that he doesn't explode with you.

I can't stress enough that you should hire a trainer and get some real time under the saddle with this horse before you go further.
Reply:get a professional and get him re-trained!
Reply:Are you scared when he starts to act up? Or even get mad?

Try to stay neutral when he does it. I started riding a really spoiled horse a few months ago, and everyone was telling me that I'd have to do ground work and take him to the trainer. BUT, I kept on riding him, and spun him in a circle when he got pushy/didnt want to do what I told him.

Of course, that was what the owner told me to do, and im not sure if this is your horse or not, but I would talk to the owners if he isnt yours.

Over the past month, he's still a bit pushy, but he's finally understanding that I am the boss, and Im not putting up with his stupidness.

Try not to rush things on him because you're excited, just take it slow.
Reply:i think you just need, to be a little bit calm and assertive, if you turn him out to pasture with another horse, and you go to see the other horse and he comes out and shoves it away, simply ignore him. Just keep in mind when you ride and he doesn't listen, grab the reigns and pull back on his right side to make him touch your foot, or at least get close to it, and if he misbehaves, give him a tap in between his ears, he'll give you his attention alright!
Reply:You probably aren't going to like my answer, but that never stopped me before so here goes.

First of all, a horse - especially a young horse - isn't like a bike or an ATV. You can't expect to be able to hop on and ride whenever you want and leave it alone the rest of the time. You need a relationship with that horse, and that means interacting with it, working with it, every day, whether you ride or not.

Second, it's not like a tractor either. You can't send a horse to someone else to "fix" and expect him to work great for you when you get him back. The horse needs to respect YOU, and you need to earn that respect by doing the work.

I'm guessing a little without a better description, but it sounds like your horse understands what's expected of him, he just doesn't understand WHY he should do it. How many times have you asked "why?" when you were told to do something. Sometimes, for both horse and man, the answer "because I'm the boss" suffices. But does your horse believe that you're the boss?

I also think that getting a trainer would be a good idea, but I think you need a trainer to train you, not just the horse. Find a trainer that will work with both of you and teach you how to train your horse yourself. You'll gain the horse's respect and probably others' as well. Yes, it's a lot of work. But in my opinion a relationship with the horse based on mutual respect and trust and a clear understanding of who leads and who follows is well worth it.
Reply:you need to be in controll. give him lots of little jobs to do and keep him focused on you. dont let him get away with doing what he wants when he wants or it will get worse and worse. when he does something wrong pull his head arround and make him turn a really tight circle. he'll get tired of haveing to do that and decide to behave, it'll be less work. also if he is worse fresh, lounge him a little before you get on. round pen works wonders for there respect also!!!

Does my horse look skinny?

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I have a 15 year old Quarter Horse and i was wondering why isnt he gaining any wait on his ribs and backbone. He is gaining weight everywhere else except those places. When i first got him he was very skinny and has put on some weight from then just not in certain places. Does anyone know how can i get some more weight on him? Also i was wondering why does he slobber so much when he has a bit in his mouth? He has had his teeth floated recently and i just cant understand why he is doing that.

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Does my horse look skinny?
yeah, id say he could stand to gain 50 more pounds. give him some good grain, and exercise him, he should come around
Reply:There are a few things I would need to know n order to give you a straight answer. First off has this horse been wormed lately or checked for worms at the vet? Second off, what are you feeding this horse and how are you using it (for instance is it on an alfalfa only diet and getting ridden frequently or worked hard)?

I would agree with you that this horse is likely not gaining weight in all the ways you would like it to. Here are some suggestions.

1) If you haven't wormed this horse or had him checked for them by a vet do so. If he does have worms youll be fighting a losing battle till you get rid of them

2) You might consider talking to your local feed store about different types of sweet feed (grain) that can be given as a ration (be sure not to over do it either) in order to assist in basic weight buildup

3) once these things have been done start with a light to moderate daily workout to help turn the weight that is put on inot muscle rather than fat (fat is obviously bad for 2 reasons 1 if it is too much it is unhealthy and 2 it is weight that can be easily lost again making it hard to find and maintain a healthy balance.)

If you have further questions u can email me at babbs216@yahoo.com
Reply:Heya

I would say he is slightly underweight but to me he looks like a tb so i wouldnt worry all that much b/c its so hard to keep the weight on.Just keep doing what your doing and if in a month he hasnt gained weight then increase his food intake slowly until he does good luck :) xxx
Reply:Yeah!

I can see his ribs and that is NOT good

Take him to a vet to find out how to make him gain weight

How do I get my horse to gain weight?

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I have a 12yr old Paint Gelding that is hard to maintain weight. He is 15.5 hands and has a quarter horse type build. He is current on all vaccinations and worming. Currently he is fed a 3lb coffee can full of 14% Sweetfeed(mixture of corn, oats, pellets covered in molases) and 3 flakes of high quality timothy hay twice daily. He is pastured with another horse and shares a 25ft x 25ft open stall that they are both able to go in and out of their 2 acre pasture as they please.(not much grass left because of winter) I have tried using "Weight Builder" by farnam, but it didnt seem to help. I also had his teeth floated because I was told that could be the problem. I want to increase his grain but im not sure how much is too much. He is rode lightly a few times a week. How much grain can I feed hi without risking collic or laminitis? Also anyother ways to get him to gain weight would be much appreciated. I would like to see him gain aprox 100 lbs. Thanks

How do I get my horse to gain weight?
Do not just increase grain to add weight you risk lamanitis and colic.

If you want to add weight add fat to the horses diet.

You can get stabalzed rice bran a powder and add it over the feed or you can add liquid oil to the top of the feed. Start at 1/4 cup and work up to one cup per feeding.

It adds calories with out making the horse hot and it carries no cloic or lamanitis risk. There are many ways to add fat to the diet.

You can also add beet pulp. It is hte stuff left over after they remove the sugar from sugar beets. It comes shredded or in pellets and you put it in water and soak it and it expands. So start out with a couple of cups and add water and let sit hten feed to the horse.

You can mix the grain into the beet pulp and give them everything together. Beet pulp is also great as it is fiber and will not cause lamanitis.

The other thing I would bdo is go to free choice hay. Let him have all he wants.

I take thoroughbreds off the race track and turn them out on pasture give them free chioce hay and get their weight up and start with their re-training process. I use the above formulas to put weight on them. It works.

I do not feed sweet feed I use Tripple Crown it is a pelleted type feed and you feed way less of it and the horses seem to be able to use the feed better. Then I add fat and beet pulp and everyone gets free choice grass hay. No one is thin and they look good.

Good luck with your Paint.
Reply:I would also say beet pulp, I would give it once a day usually at night, prep it in the morning so it soaks for a few hours. Had a horse had alot of trouble gaining weight. He would get 6 qts in am and same at night. Hay at night and on grass all day. Report It

Reply:first off, weight like that can't be gained overnight, not even in a year, if so, i'd say thats pretty dangerous, ---for this winter alone alone try to have him gain more like fifteen pound, mix crued fat with feed and let it take it's course, about 2-6oz of mixture with feed
Reply:I have done this before many times with my horses in the past. If I were you the first thing I would do is put her out in a fiels or pasture to graze for a while...dont remover her fast. Allow her to stay there for 5 hours. Feed her extra hay and oats. I hope this works for you.
Reply:Cook the oats before you add the other ingredients. Buy a bag of oats %26amp; cut the sweetfeed mixture in half. Check the poop. If the sweetfeed is coming out looking the same as when it went in, then you should cook it too. A trick used by grooms on the race track to fatten up a horse is bread. A loaf of any type of bread ( I preferred whole grain) in the feed tub will add pounds. Be careful %26amp; give your horse a few slices at first just to see how their system will handle the bread. After the first week, if there's no colic or other problems, then just add the bread to the cooked grain mixture. If you cook your grains, then they will be used more efficiently by the horse %26amp; digest easily with less waste %26amp; complications. Be sure to add a tablespoon of vegetable oil to the feed.
Reply:feed it lots of food.
Reply:First off, don't worry so much about increasing your horse's garin intake. You may want to reccommend switching feeds...I would recommend "Demand" from Blue seal. I have been at show barns with a grand prix jumper who would give her thin horses a full coffee can of demand twice daily. Also, you may want to consider supplementing your horse's feed. Some wonderful supplements I would reccomend are : flax seed - it is beneficial in more ways than just putting on weight. It also gives the coat a healthy sheen, is good for the horses joints, and is a very useable source of energy. If you feed flax seed, though, remember to either boil it or grind it (coffee grinder works well) beforehand.

Also, flax seed is sensitive to light and heat, especially once ground. So store in a cool, dry place and do not gring large amounts at once.

Other supplements I would consider include "FatCat" and "Gain". "Gain" has a higher (I believe it's protein but fiber may be the word I'm looking for) content than FatCat so is better for really underweight horses. It helps to put weight on quickly.

Corn oil or vegetable oil works really nicely to help put on fat and, as with flax seed, add that nie shiny gloss to your horse's coat.

Beet pulp and hay cubes are other things to consider. Both are fillers.

Finally, LOTS of handwalking would be beneficial to the horse. We recently rescued a horse that was WAY underweight and with adding vitamins and fatcat to his feed, changing the grain from rolled oats to Blue Seal Demand, and either handwalking him (hills are really good for this sort of thing) or walking him under saddle, he is finally starting to muscle up.

Beauty

If you've retired a horse - how'd you decide when?

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I have a pony who is 26 years old who I first got when he was 3, sold him at 12 and got him back at 19. During the 7 years I didn't have him, he foundered badly and developed cushing's disease. However, he has been very healthy, sound and spunky until this year, but has lost a lot of muscle tone and doesn't keep weight on well. This summer he choked twice and colicked once. All three incidents were mild and I got them resolved without calling the vet. Then I had his teeth floated and switched to a senior feed, which seemed to make a difference. He's not stiff or lame and still nickers when I call his name. My 6 year old son rides him about once a week. Just walk/trot so far, and usually in short sessions unless we go for a mostly walking trail ride. We went on a trail ride last Sunday, for the first time with me riding my horse instead of walking along beside him or leading the pony from my horse.

If you've retired a horse - how'd you decide when?
I would just monitor him. He sounds like he is still enjoying life and your son sounds like he is enjoying him. Once a week is not much at all and if he is healthy then he should be fine. If he starts to get winded easily or comes up even a little lame then stop. I mean I do not want him to be forced to go until he is lame, but I feel for the very little your son is riding him it is no different then what he might do outside in a paddock. Sometimes doing that little bit of work helps them feel still needed, especially if he likes it. Moving also helps the joints, the movement help keep the joint fluid moving. If your son is going to move up and start riding harder then invest in another animal but for now he seems fine. I have seen horse be ridden until they are well into their 30's. So just watch him and figure out what is best for him by what he tells you. He may have attached himself to your son sort of as his protector. They love little kids and are really good with them. (most horses, and old horses)
Reply:The pony sounds like he is wanting to be put to pasture now, he wont go away too well away from home, but you said once he headed for home and knew it, he responded well..He wanted to get back to the barn and rest, he is worn out.........One of my horses went at 27 yrs, I was so heartbroken, my dad put him to lot feed only, for about 8u mos before he died....he did not want to respond either, but my dad did not have the heart to put him down....He finally got he did not want to eat well and we lost him that Spring...Just enjoy the pony as much as you can, and dont wear him down too much.......god bless and I wish your pony the best....
Reply:I think as long as he is showing interest in life and nickering at you all systems are go. I am in the same boat as you with a 26 year old pony. To keep the choking to a min. I soak hay cubes in water, we call it "pony soup". My son and I just started trail riding and this old guy is a real trooper. We do have to make concessions for him, such as waiting on hills for him to catch his breath. Being a pony he hairs up more then the horses and he has to trot to keep up. I make sure he goes out with one of my other older horses to make him move around. If left to himself he will find a sunny spot and not move all day. With our pony the day the sparkle goes out of his eye or he becomes too stiff or lame to ride that will be the time. It sucks but this is part of the package of being a horse owner.
Reply:Your concern should be keeping the pony comfortable and the older they become oft times arithritis and other general bone degeneration occurs. Can happen within any joint...knees, hocks, hips, fetlocks, patella. His weight loss may be due to his body not utilizing feed as effectively. Senior feeds should help him. You'll know when to retire him as his "job" (being ridden once a week)will become increasingly difficult for him; he will not move as freely and will demonstrate reluctance to move.

I think however, you're doing a good job with the pony!!
Reply:I honestly wouldn't be that worried. I know much younger horses that don't want to leave the barn and then get excited on the return. Most associate being home with food, which is why they want to be there. Plus it's where they feel comfortable and feel that they are safe. I particularly would not be worried since you just changed your usual routine from leading or ponying him to letting him be ridden independently by a young child. A horse knows when there is someone who can really ride and will make him work vs. someone just learning on their back. If he starts showing signs of lameness or shows a drop in health, then it might be time to retire him for good, but if he still looks and acts healthy, there is nothing at all wrong with a light work once a week- it's actually better for him than standing around all day. It will help him to retain some muscle mass and will stretch his legs and warm up his muscles a bit (as long as he's sound and healthy). When it's time, he'll let you know.
Reply:you might want to retire your pony, because he is 26 years old. And even though he's 26, to him he probably feels he's 100! It sometimes is rare for a pony or horse to live that long. Like there is a Shetland pony at my stable, and she's 40!!! You could have your son ride the other horse. But that depends on the horses behavior. like if he's fast and shies, you wouldn't want your son to ride him. But if he's calm and easy going, he's probably a good choice. Or if there is a stable near you, you could have your son ride there. But if you decide to retire the pony to a place far away, i'll understand that if you do do that, you will be giving away lots of memorys. I would retire him before the snow comes, because since he's old, his bones are fragle. So he could slip and fall. Then you might have to put it to sleep.
Reply:My parents still own a gelding I grew up with, he is now 26 years old, and I saw him during Thanksgiving when I went to my parents' ranch. We took a long ride in the afternoon, and I was suggesting that my husband (still learning to ride horses) ride Kokomo. My sister looked at me like I was silly. I said, "Why not, is he in the china cabinet already?" She said, "Yes, unless he wants to kick him all the way, don't ride him." It seems Kokomo is officially retired. He just has creaky old joints and he refuses to push himself out of a shuffle any longer. He is half Arabian, half Quarter Horse, and is in excellent health. A year ago, he looked about half his age....at Thanksgiving he had a lot of fuzzy winter fur on him, so it's hard to tell, but his weight and muscle is good. Has never had any health problems. But he just takes care of himself. Won't hurry, doesn't walk as fast as the other horses, so he can't keep up without really pushing him, which gets old after a mile or so. So he's retired.

I would say in your case short rides with your son are great for your old pony. Just don't expect him to be the easiest horse for your son to ride. He's going to take care of numero uno. He will probably insist on going his own pace and heading home if he's had enough. This may be a perfect situation for your son to safely learn how to control a horse and make him mind. So teach your son how to rein him and cue him when he's trying to do his own thing. I learned to ride on a stubborn old gelding, it's good training for breaking colts later on. Good luck, and enjoy your old pony. They're priceless.
Reply:I always say retire the horse when:

The horse doesn't enjoy the ride any longer.

Of course monitor their health and make sure they are sound etc. - it sounds like you already know all that.

But,

You can tell if they just don't WANT to go riding anymore (they don't get excited anymore or don't have an interest in the adventure - then I would say "ok, just enjoy the pasture, and we won't work you anymore ol guy".

However, a little ride from a 6 year old would actually be a little healthy exercise for your pony too.
Reply:I used to show my 17yr old Arabian in just about ever class ( he is very versatile) last year our stud rammed him into the fence and he got his leg caught up in it pretty bad, it took about 3 months of being stall bound before he was healed up and being him self again. But i have retired him from showing cause i barrel race him too. but i still take him trail riding and let my nieces ride him. but no more showing. All the barrel racing would probably flare his ankle back up. As long as their still willing to get out and go for a ride even if its a short one i wouldn't throw in the towel just yet.
Reply:You'll know when its time :) I rode my roping horse until he was past 34... I didn't have a choice- he wouldnt let me use any of the other horses, he refused to admit he was getting old! He was out in a large pasture with my other horses, and he always poked around when he was around them, but when i would show up at the front gate with a halter, he was always the first one to insist that I use him, and he would chase away the other horses to get to me first! He had more spring in his step when i rode him than my 3 year olds did! I know that he actually enjoyed our strolls, I think it made him feel young again :) And then eventually he just decided he was too old for all that stuff and lost some of that spring when I rode him, so i just decided it was time to just give him all the love i could possibly give him until he passed. I admired his spunk until the day he died, which ended up being in the middle of his 37th year. :) Anyways, he had locking stifles that acted up every once in awhile, and we had him on a special diet because he wasnt keeping weight on as well as he did in his younger years also. He was also a choker until we put several mid sized rocks in his feed bucket, it makes them have to nose around for their feed and not take as big of bites. We also soaked all his feed and hay. Anyways, enjoy your pony while you have him, as long as he's happy, there's no reason he can't still be used. :)
Reply:We had to retire my husband's gelding when the arthritis in his knees got to the point that it was uncomfortable for him when riding. And he told us about it, loud and clear. He never did limp, but twice his knee "seized up" and he fell. The first time we took him in, got a thorough check up, and were told to watch him closely, try a little bute, and see how he went. The second time it happened, we figured that was probably it. A couple of weeks later the farrier came to shoe everyone, and this gelding that was always the easiest guy in the barn to work with had an absolute fit. When we tried to raise his fronts, he went down on the ground. I told my farrier....pull his shoes....he's pasture art. God love my farrier...he went through all sorts of gyrations to figure out a position to get in that allowed the old boy the most comfort. If this pony is getting along as well as you say, I see no reason why your son can't continue to ride him, so long as continues to do well. Good luck to you....gotta love those seniors!
Reply:If you know your horse well enough, they will let you know. And you will be able to tell if they are just trying to be cunning and trying to pull the wool over your eyes.
Reply:i just retired my 22yr old quarter horse this past summer. He is now strictly a trail/pleasure horse. i retired him because his navicular was taking its toll on him, we had been able to mangage it pretty well but then it started getting harder to keep him sound. he also doesn't do well in the heat, so standing out in the sun all day at a horse show was also tough on him. i had talked about retiring him before but then he was doing so well i decided not to. you just have to keep an eye on your pony. i was at a show one day this past summer and i knew he was done you could see it in his face. but he loves trail riding so he now gets ridden mayb 1x every 2 weeks walk/trot on the trail. it really depends on the individual horse. as long as your pony is healthy and happy there's no reason to retire him.

I need help on a horse bit?

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ok my horse used to do so good with a med.port roller bit and every since i got his teeth done he wont stop i need help bad i need one with a roller to keep his busy but no so pain ful hes a barrel horse if that helps

I need help on a horse bit?
This sounds more like a mouth problem, not a bit problem. Have your vet or farrier (whoever did the horse's teeth) come back and check - maybe the horse has a sore from where the dental work was done - sometimes files and rasps slip and gums or tongue get nicked. If his mouth is bothering him, he may try to escape the discomfort by trying to get away from it (not stopping), rather than responding to the bit as he has in the past.

If it is not a mouth problem, then you have to decide if you really want a harsher bit. I hate to see people go to harsher and harsher bits to control their horses. I would suggest - if you are not currently running barrels - to give him a break from a bit altogether and try a bosal or a mechanical hackamore. If you are currently running barrels, I would go with the mildest bit that still gives you the control you need. Have you ever tried him on a modified tom thumb with a roller? Or check out some of the barrel racing bits here: http://www.carolinabit.com/

Good luck with your horse.
Reply:Your best bet is talking to someone at your local tack shop. They'll have some recommendations for you, and might be able to special order bits.
Reply:A true horsemen doesn't need to yank on a horse's mouth to get it to stop. Perhaps you should contact your vet to observe your horse with the bit in it's mouth. It could be pinching him, or your curb chain may be too tight. The port could also be hitting the roof of his mouth in an uncomfortable way. If no answer can be found with the above, I would contact a riding instructor who is good, and can better teach you to use your hands and the horse's mouth.

Tips for selling a horse?

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ok i have to sell my horse :'( what do i need to look out for, what should the highlights be in my advirtisments? in your experiance what websites give u the most bang for your buck? how do i make sure she goes to a good home- fast (might be impossible i know) HELP\

sample of what i was thinkin:

Kamela Kate 10 yr old reg paint/ qtr horse dun mare. Goes english, western, bareback, trails, shows, games, 35 days prof. training last summer. Been ridden by 13 yr old girl for past year. Int- Exp rider. Recent shots, teeth floated, shoes. Must sell due to family problems. (then my contact info)

HELP

Tips for selling a horse?
Your ad looks decent. I ALWAYS include price, and I always look for a price when I'm shopping. Many buyers will not call if there is no price, they don't want to waste their time. Yes, having a price will eliminate some buyers right off the bat, but on the other hand, they wouldn't have been interested anyhow.

I have a couple other minor suggestions for you. Example - a Reg Paint would not be labeled as a Paint/QTR (besides, the common apprebiation for Quarter Horse is either QH or AQHA) I would say that year your horse is born, and not that it's 10. People often want to know its height, too.If you are putting the ad into a website, you will have room for alot more info, and I would get pretty detailed. I have had really good success with free internet ads on horse websites, although some give you a very small space for free. I have used Dreamhorse.com, Equine.com, Acme.com all have free ads although you end up at the back of the pack behind the paid ads.

The total success to selling to selling your horse through the internet is 1)really good photos, especially ones highlighting your horse's strengths. There is a big demand for youth horses, as yours in, so I would really highlight that she has been shown, used in 4-H, whatever so that any parent who is shopping for a horse for their child pays attention to your ad. Hopefully you have lots of pictures of you and your horse at shows, show your horse headsetting, being handed a ribbon, or with you hugging it around the neck and people pay attention. The other most important thing is 2)be honest and upright in everything about your horse. People know that all horses have faults. Make sure that you don't pretend your horse has no faults, let the buyers know them while pointing out your horse's good points. That way they will be happy with the horse if they buy her, and they will know that you can be trusted. I would never trust a horse seller that refused to give me an honest opinion of their horse's good and bad points.

Using your description I wrote an ad for the internet for you. See if you like it. It is longer, and since I don't know the details about your horse parts are probably wrong. But it will give you an idea.

For sale: 1997 Registered Paint mare, dun overo, 15.2hh. Excellent youth horse for intermediate to experienced youth. Has been shown successfully in Western and English classes. Used for games, jumps 2'6". Sensible on trails, safe to ride bareback. Quiet, easy to catch, likes people. Sound, healthy and up to date on all health care. $5000 OBO

Good luck. I hope things work out well for you both.
Reply:Advertise online, and also in top horse mags
Reply:Your sample ad looks good to me. It has all of the information I would be looking for, unless you also want to list a price range you're hoping to get for your horse.

If you plan to advertise your horse online, be sure to include where you live (which city/county and state/province) so people who are only looking for horses in their local area can decide whether to ask for more information. Some people will only buy horses within trailering distance of their own home/farm/ranch.

Once you have a few people who have expressed interest in buying your horse, you will want to have a simple contract between you and the buyer to confirm the agreed-upon price, right of first refusal (if they want to sell the horse, they need to offer it back to you before selling it to someone else), terms in case they aren't happy with the horse (some people want a trial period to make sure the horse meets their needs before buying it), etc. You will want to make sure your horse goes to a good home. If more than one person wants to buy your horse, you'll have to decide which one you'd rather sell her to.

I volunteer for a therapeutic riding center in the Los Angeles area, and we're always looking for well-trained, sound horses that can be donated so that disabled children can learn to ride. If you don't find a buyer, you may want to consider donating your horse to a worthy organization.

If you are under 18, you will want to check with your parent(s) to make sure they don't mind you posting your contact information online. Watch out for online predators.

I hope this helps.
Reply:In your ad: leave out the family problems part - and the horse's name. Those aren't important.

Also, speak with your stable manager for ideas - consider listing her with a broker/trader.

Finally, if you must rehome your horse quickily - consider offering her to a lesson barn - it's a hard life - but it's not the glue factory.

YOu might also consder one of the horse rescue orgs if you must rehome her immediately. Maybe someone can "foster her" until your family problems are overwith.
Reply:Heres what I would do:

Kamela Kate is ten yr. old Paint/QH dun mare. She is registered. She can go english, western, trails, shows, games and bareback. She had 35 days prof. training the previous summer. Has been ridden by a 13 yr. old for the past year. Is mainly for a Intermediate to Expert rider. Has had recent shots, teeth floated, and shoes.

Must sell due to family issues.

Phone number

City

State

I'm real sorry you got to sell your horse. But, she sounds beautiful!
Reply:here's something you can do, go to Horsetopia.com and post an ad, I found a horse I LOVED on there! (I just couldn't afford =(

) But a lot of horses get kind and loving families on there.
Reply:I think you really have to consider your audience when selling a horse. Make sure you post in your local newspapers and classifieds as well as at shows in your area. Advertising online is an excellent way to get your horse posted and seen by a lot of people. You probably do not want to post your horse in national magazines unless you are asking more than $20k or thereabouts because the people who look to those for horses are looking for a very serious animal. But, if you want to pay for the ad space, it never hurts.

Some things I would want to know if I were looking for a QH mare - breeding history? height? weight? activity level? How is she with the vet/farrier/trailering? What makes her not a starter horse? Be honest and say as much as you can without talking her down, that way you prevent people from asking a million questions and wasting your time. You don't have to say "Family problems" which can sound quite strong but perhaps "personal lack of time" or "getting out of horses." I only say that because you don't want a potential buyer asking about your family!

Also take pictures. Even if you aren't posting them, people will ask for them by email. Try to capture her in movement, cantering/trotting etc. If you are asking more than $5k you need a video of all gaits and jumping or any talent she may have. Also I find a good bath, a clip/trim, mane pull, hoof polish and show sheen go a long way towards a much prettier horse. It will also help people really see what sounds like a very unique coloration. You can put rice power or baby power on her whites to make them look whiter and then a little baby oil on the face (a little, just wipe on with a paper towel) to make her face shine and look delicate. You want to get someone to hold your horse while you wave a fan in the air to get her ears up and pay attention while taking a picture to get a good confirmation side shot. Best of luck.
Reply:that sounds great. i usually use equine.com and want ad.com. equine usually gives me a lot of feedback. try it!
Reply:I think it's fine just make sure u say how any many or about how many hands she is. u can leave the family problems in there. Also u could try saying must sell in big letters. Maybe like this ********-MUST SELL-******** so every1 see's it
Reply:That looks good if you put that in the newspaper, you could also put an add online on:

equine.com

horsetopia.com

dreamhorse.com

You may also want to put a price on it because alot of people buy only by price.

Good luck!

Sounds like a nice horse!
Reply:Leave out the reason for selling until someone contacts you with interest and asks. The information that you put is excellent. I would include "Good home a MUST" in your ad and let the seller know that you want to keep tabs or visit once in a while if this interests you or is a feasible idea. I would suggest putting your sale price as well as this usually pokes more interest at people. I would say that equine.com and dreamhorse.com are the most frequented equine sales online as far as I know. Sorry for your misfortune but good luck with the sale :)
Reply:My best advice is to advertise online, and then when you get some interested buyers, try to determine if they are good horse people before you sell. Set up a time for them to come see your horse, let them watch as you tack her up and ride her, then allow them to ride as you watch. Point out anything you think they should know about her, things you've accomplished with her, etc. Ask them a lot of questions about their plans for her, and what kind of horse they're looking for. You don't have to sell to the first person that comes along, and I would never sell to a person who wants to buy her without looking at her and riding her. You really want to find a good home, so scrutinize them as much as they're scrutinizing your horse.

About your ad, I agree with the others who said name a price. Online, you can ask for more, and then come down a little bit if you find a buyer that you really like.

I have used http://www.dreamhorse.com successfully, as well as http://www.equine.com . My favorite horse website is http://www.liverystable.net . I think all of them offer free text ads, and are reasonable if you want to place photos. Photos always get more attention than text ads. Sounds like you've got a great horse, so I hope you have success. Good luck!
Reply:Depending on how much you intend to sell her for, you could get a broker and they will bring clients to you and then get a commission off the sale. Also contact local trainers because they might have clients that could be interested.
Reply:I would try listing the horse on Craiglist.org. Its an awesome web site, and its free to post, text and picture. Just be careful about scammers. Dont give your number on the ad as you will bombarded with phone calls. People shop like crazy on there.

I posted my 6 yr old medicine hat paint on there and I sold the horse the very next day. No joke! It was crazy, I did post my number and I had upwards of twenty phone calls and at least 15 e-mails about him in less than one day. Thus the warning about your number, unless you are prepared to talk alot. LOL

My advice on selling is to be honest about the horse. Tell everything you know, good and bad. They will find out the bad eventually and if you were not completely honest, your name could get smeared in the mud. You might sell to someone that knows someone you know that you showed with, then it could go downhill from there.

I told all I knew about my horse. Man he was super sweet on the ground. Loved to be petted, bathed, kids could walk all around him, pet him, brush him, hug him. He would follow you around the pasture like a puppy. That is until you got the halter. Geeze. And man was he a booger under saddle.

The people who sold him to me flat out lied, told me he was totally kid broke. It really sucks to lied to when your life, or your kids life is at risk.

Good luck and sorry you have to part with your horse. Maybe you could consider leasing her out for free. Having the leasee's pay for all medical and farrier care???? And you could still visit and ride. Just a thought.
Reply:I'd eliminate the horse's name and triim the ad if you are using a source that charges by the word. Example:

10 yr. dun paint/Qh mare. Rides English/Western, trails, shows, games. 35 days prof. training, recent shots, shoes, floating. Intermediate/experineced rider, ridden past year by 13-year-old girl.

My advice - be honest. Does she have any vices? You need not list them but please tell potential buyers. You may lose a sale but your reputation will be intact and this will help keep the horse from being resold countless times.

Whats wrong with my horse?

2010-05-17T20:55:00.000-07:00

I have been to several vets and no one knows whats wrong with him, is there anyone out there that might know? 15 year old quarter horse gelding, when out riding sweats real heavy starts to wable and sometimes he collapses, he doesnt do this all the time and he is in shape, he has had blood test and many examanations, he is up to date on all shots, wormers and teeth, the otherday he was on the cross ties and he started to kick at his chest with his front leg and hickup,

So whats wrong with my horse?

Whats wrong with my horse?
HYPP maybe. What are his bloodlines? If he has Impressive bloodlines you may want to make sure he HYPP negative. This is usually stamped on his papers if he is registered. Check out AQHA.

http://www.vgl.ucdavis.edu/service/horse...
Reply:You are kidding right? Its your horse: your the owner! Lazy horses do not show these symptoms.. something is truly wrong have you considered animal abuse? That some strong illness/affliction!!!He sweats and collapes to get out of work? Riiiiight. Don't for forget to pay all those vet bills. Report It

Reply:there might be something wrong with his lungs or heart if he was kicking at his chest. there is diseases that no one knows are there until it gets VERY serious.
Reply:kick at his front chest? have you done any heart monitoring? It sounds like he might have a weak heart to me. There are a few vet clinics in each state where you can do heart monitoring on a treadmill, among other tests.

Please do not do anything more than light riding- making your horse do a heavy workout when he obviously can not handle it (sweating heavy, wobbling, collapsing) is just cruel and unfair to the horse.
Reply:If it were HYPP it would have shown itself before now. I would be concerned about his heart and electrolyte balance. Look for the best clinic in your area and take him there ASAP. This doesn't sound like something you can wait and see about. Good luck!
Reply:I suggest trying a number of different vets until you get a solid answer-- search for the best in the country or close by.... A lot of colleges have outstanding veterinary services, like Michigan State in Michigan... They are one of the best places around and they have treated some serious illnesses. Make sure he is getting a scan, cardiograph etc... I suggest putting him on stall rest for awhile until then, riding isn't a very good option at this point, just take him for walks and graze him =) Please keep in mind he's probably in pain-- not to mention it's very dangerous for horse and rider to be collapsing in the arena.
Reply:Do have him checked again, by a different vet, if necessary.

If you would like an Equestrian/Horse Riding category on here, please go to the Forum, top right-hand corner, and suggest it. Thanks.
Reply:Is he sleep deprived? Its one test that does not show in the blood work. You tried several vets,tests, everything and he is in good shape.. you must be very worried!

Least cost observation is always the local University,they love problems with no easy answer. Will your vet give you a recommendation ?

Luck!

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Cost of Coggins, teeth and sheaths?

2010-05-17T20:54:00.002-07:00

I'm a new horse owner and have to have the vet out this month for a check up. I know he'll need his Coggins, teeth, and sheath cleaned. How much would this typically cost. Also, what types of vaccines will the vet do, and are there ones I do myself?My horse is a 14 year old Warmblood gelding. Please add anything else you think is important to know about.

Cost of Coggins, teeth and sheaths?
Hi Johanna, I'd guess about $150 - $250, probably in the upper end of that. He should have rabies, west nile, flu vaccines, and I think there is one more, but pretty much just tell your vet you'd like to do routine vaccinations and they can fill you in on the different ones and what you need done. It cost me $75 for a coggins and vaccinations, but the economy is lower where I live. I think there are vaccinations you can administer yourself but I'd recommend you have the vet do it this time. You can have him/her show you how to do it and they can tell you about any vaccinations you can do and how to get them, etc. These are some sites about administering vaccines yourself: http://equisearch.com/horses_care/health... and this page doesn't recommend it so you may want to hear what it says http://www.practical-pet-care.com/horse_... You also can clean the sheath by yourself. Here are some sites if you ever decide to do so: http://equisearch.com/horses_care/health... and http://www.equusite.com/articles/health/... and http://iceryder.net/sheath/ Depending on your horse, he may not need his teeth done often at all. You will also need to worm your horse about every three months. Hope it all works out!
Reply:Coggins tests are done if you are buying a horse out of state. If you need to know the cost, it is around $56. Generally vets don't clean horse's teeth unless there is a specific reason for doing so. Your horse, though I'm not familiar with him/her may need it's teeth floated (a vet term meaning to grind the sharp edges off the horses teeth) which if it is needed will cost proably around $165. Because you are a new horse owner and I assume this is your first horse, I would suggest letting the vet give your horse all the injections needed. The types of injections given are: West Nile (twice a year), I have forgotten if this injection is $33 or $10 a pop; both Eastern and Western Sleeping Sickness which is usually given along with another injection in the form of a three way "or" a four way injection (meaning either 3 or 4 types of injections are given in one dose); Td (Tetanus and Diptheria injection) and the frequently forgotten injection, Rabies. Some people try to claim that horses don't get Rabies. This is a myth. Any animal on the face of this earth can get Rabies. There is a new alert that is starting to surface, even though the virus has been around for a long time that you might ask the vet about. I'm getting mixed messages. One moment I hear that there is an injection that is now available and then I also read that this injection does not do any good for the Herpes Virus that affects the nervous system. To play it safe, you might want to say each of the injections run $35. You should have some injection money left by doing this because not all injections run this high. You have a minumum of two wormers that you need to give your horse about every two to three months. Your vet will advise you on this. As for cleaning the sheath, the doctor may show you how to do it or again he may say it is fine.

Since your horse is 14 years old, you might want to ask the vet which type of feed you should feed your horse.

You have foot care that the vet does not do that you need to have done every 6 weeks. This is hoof trimming. This generally costs about $40 for large horses. This excludes the shoeing which I would not recommend. If you get a blacksmith/farriar, he/she may try to convince you shoeing (bar shoeing) is a life saver on horse's hooves. This is not necessarily true. It has been found that horses do better bare footed and if the horse needs shoes, you can buy some Old Mac Hoof Boots (a polyurethane hoof boot that goes on and off the hoof as needed) for the horse. These run you about $170 for two boots (if this sounds expensive to you, bar shoeing runs close to $100 every six weeks).

Above mentioned are the major part of your horse's upkeep. There are other things that come along that vary from horse to horse that you will be consulting your vet about as time goes on.
Reply:Coggins are anywhere from $35- $60, depending on where you go. I have paid a range of figures in the same state, so who knows. I think that might be how far away from the lab they have to send it, or how many they send, since a larger clinic had a cheaper price. They are good up until Dec 31st of that year, no matter when you got them.

Teeth- they suggest every 6 months, but I do every year -2 yrs. With your horse being a little older, I would probably get them check every year or so. Dental work cost anywhere from $100+ depending on how much sedation your horse needs and how bad the teeth are. If you need to actually float them, I think it is around $200ish. If you just need to file the points, it is rounghly $80-100 including sedation.

Sheath cleaning- you can do that yourself if your horse is quieter. Some are good, some need sedation. Get some mild unscented soap or even horse shampoo and scrub away. I am not sure what the vet costs are for this.

Vaccines usually give in March or so: 5 or 6 way, Rabies, and West nile are the minimum I suggestion. There is also a strangles, and potomac fever. I usually don't give the last two because they are easily treatable and the strangles vaccine is not that effective (internasal or injection) and we had a horse with potomac fever and they got over it right away w/ meds. Still is pretty rare though.

For if you can give them yourself- as long as you know how to give shots correctly, you can give everything but rabies yourself. It really cuts down on costs. Do not attempt if no one showed you how to give a shot- you can kill your horse if done incorrectly.

You also need to worm your horse regularly. There are several options. You can either do a daily wormer, like strongid (I think that is it, white container with green top), which is a pelleted form, but can get expensive. Or you can go for the tube wormers which is a 2-3 month rotation. I usually do 2 in the spring/summer/fall, and 3 months in the winter. You rotate with ivermectin, pyrantel, and an all in one (such as equimax). The equimax you want to give in March/April and Sept/Oct. The other ones you can rotate around it. The vet may have a different rotation for your area, since it changes in various parts of the US depending on the parasite prevalence. Just ask them about it.
Reply:Your best way to find out this information is to call the vet and ask him/her. The cost will depend greatly on where you live as well as what vaccinations the vet administers which will also depend on where you live. I personally live in South Arkansas, and my yearly coggins and vaccinations run about $60 per horse. I have their teeth checked but have not had to have anything done to them as of yet. The sheath cleaning is something that you can do yourself. There are no telling how many books that describe the particulars of it. If you're not one of the people that can read something, then apply it find an experience horse person and ask them how, or ask the vet. That needs to be done more than once a year.
Reply:Coggins will run around $30 and if you need a health certificate some vets will charge anywhere from free to $30 for that, too. To have his teeth floated will depend upon the type of equipment used and how much sedative, if any, your horse will need, but expect around $150. I've never had a horse's sheath cleaned by a vet--typically this is something you can do yourself but I would guess perhaps another $30 or so. Your horse will need a 4-way vaccine which includes rhino. Your vet may also suggest West nile Virus, Rabies, and/or Strangles vaccines, depending on where you live. You can give the 4-way yourself--buy it from your vet or online, but you MUST give it intermuscular. If you are unsure of how to give an intermuscular shot have your vet show you the first time. If you get a vein you can kill your horse or make him very sick.

If he has never had any shots before he will have to have his initial shots and then a booster.

The other shots have to be given to you by a vet. Some will want to do the vaccinations themselves and others will let you do it. In some states vets MUST give the rabies vaccines themselves.

If your horse isn't already on a regular deworming program speak to your vet about that as well.

Is it his teeth?

2010-05-17T20:54:00.001-07:00

my new horse I got a week ago is shaking his head every time I put any preasure on his mouth.

He puts his head done and janks the ranins out of your hands ( I have good hands ) the people I got him of said that his teath where done 2 weeks ago but I dont know for shore.

He still has his wofth teeth and the bit is a plane snaffle he has no cuts in his mouth ever ?

He is a lazy horse and I dont shore if this is his way of not working I have been taking it very light with walking and some troting. can you help

Is it his teeth?
could be his teeth or he may have a back problem or other health issue. before buying a horse i always get a vet check done, rather than rely on what the sellers are saying. you may want to have a vet do an over all physical on him. also i have a test ride before i buy a horse. did you get an opportunity to do this? if so was he having the same behavior at that time?
Reply:maybe its his teeth or maybe its the reigns or whatever u call it

I'm purchasing a horse- quick question?

2010-05-17T20:54:00.000-07:00

So I have recently decided to buy this already gelded 2 year old Paint Horse and was wondering:

1. What should I start with first as far as training goes, should I continue with halter work or try and start him on lunging (looking for opinions, I know how to do everything)?

2. How much, on average, have you seen a wolf teeth removal go for as far as cost. I did some googling, but am curious what some who own horses have paid.

I'm purchasing a horse- quick question?
Wolf teeth really should have been removed at castration. You will need to have an equine dentist, or a vet that does dentistry come out and sedate the horse and pull them. Do that as soon as possible, because wolf teeth only interefere with everything, and they will make training harder.

You can take his training along way you like - lots of horses are started at two years old. Just look at racehorses, 2 yr old futurity horses doing rening and cutting and all kinds of things. I don't know why they do it to such babies, but at 2, you can certainly back him and get him going softly andquietly on doing some light rail work.
Reply:http://www.bestfriends.org/theanimals/pe...

Try this site. =)
Reply:I did both with my two year old, but not in a serious way. he thought the whole thing was a big game, which helped him. I would just do both but let him have fun and just be a horse without making it seem like work. But never had a wolf teeth problem, so can't help. But maybe an equine dental technician or your vet could give you an estimate.
Reply:On the training, get his ground work perfect (and I mean PERFECT) before you think about riding. On lunging, it is not good for young horses legs when done on a regular basis.

For wolf teeth, I had one wolf tooth removed from my paint three years ago. Cost $250.
Reply:First off, 2 yrs old their knees have not closed and finished growing..too much pressure on the plates can cause germinate damage. Take it slow , do some natural horsemanship ground work with him. you can teach him everything you want him to do under saddle from the ground first, then when you get on him he knows them already.

I do have my babies wolf teeth pulled. and a bit will not hurt him or bother him.

How much you pay for the horse? or the teeth to be removed?
Reply:I would do ground work start from scratch to lay the foundation just to make sure what he knows or doesn't know. As you are likely to be aware of this make sure he can lead, stand for the farrier, cross tie, ect.. As far as lunging, too much of it is not good on the joints.

Sorry but I don't have any info concerning wolf teeth removal either.

Good luck with your horse and have fun!
Reply:Make sure that his basic halter manners are in tact before you concentrate on lunging. The worst thing is to have a rude horse on the ground. Once/If they are than go ahead and start lunging him. I have NEVER heard of a young horse going lame because of lunging once a day. When my TB mare was 2 she was lunged for 30 min and did 10-15 min of halter/ground work a day and never once went lame, And she had bad feed that didnt effect her work. Even now that shes 4yo i still work on ground stuff, i think its best to work on both through out a horses life. it just really comes in handy.

My 8 month old is getting horse? is this a sign of teething?

2010-05-17T20:53:00.003-07:00

Our 8 month old baby girl is cutting some serious teeth. She already has 4 and 4 more are coming in. She has had a low fever and has had slight direha, I have notice yesturday that she is getting horse? In the last 2 days she has cried more than normal. I should say screamed off and on from the pain. She is not congested and her breathing seems to be fine. I am a first time mom and I am freaking out that she could be sick. However, I am pretty sure it her teeth. I just need some words from some pros.....

My 8 month old is getting horse? is this a sign of teething?
She is probably hoarse from screaming too much. It doesn't have much to do with the teething except that she is in pain and that makes her cry.
Reply:First of all, did you mean worse (not horse)? Am also a first time mom although I never experienced this with my 19 mos boy when he was teething. Maybe slight diarrhea and that's it. Although most people would associate teething with fever and diarrhea (although I read somewhere that this has not been proven). It wouldn't hurt to talk to your pedia about this esp if you say she has cried more than normal for the past 2 days. The doctor may prescribe something to help ease the discomfort of your precious baby. I cannot bear my baby crying so much!
Reply:Wow u'r girl is sprouting teeth fast. Diarohea, cold, cough, constipation, fever, all are symptoms of teething. my 7 month is going thru all these symptoms one by one.... But do chk with the doc.

Broken Teeth

My horse gets her bit caught in her mouth!! Advice?!?

2010-05-17T20:53:00.002-07:00

Whenever I remove my horse's bridle, she jerks up her head and gets it caught in her mouth. After, she stands there in trauma with it stuck behind her teeth. Its hard for me to get it out because I'm 5'2 and she's 16.1.

the problem started occuring about 2 months ago once in a while when she was in a slow twist bit. We then had to switch her to a kimberwiche because well, shes a 6yr old TB mare. She started not liking putting on the bridle too. This then started being a daily occurance and about a week ago I switched her back down to the slow twist bit. It still happens but not so much.

She can't stay in the slow twist for too much longer because it makes it hard to keep her under control while jumping.

What should i do? please help

My horse gets her bit caught in her mouth!! Advice?!?
There is a possibility that you may have several things going on, and all stemming from just one or two things. First of all, I agree, she should be checked by a vet for wolf teeth, just to rule it out...the reason that I say, "Just to rule it out" is because if it were wolf teeth, she would be driving you crazy while you are riding her...and you didn't mention it. I also didn't hear you say that you unhooked one end of the curb chain before you removed her bridle, if you don't, that alone is enough to start this whole mess. I would get a short, sturdy step stool to stand on EVERY time you put on or remove her bridle. Just store it right next to your bridles. It doesn't sound to me like any more than once or twice you might have been in a hurry or a little careless when you removed her bridle and hit her teeth, and after that, she doesn't trust you. So, if you will always be in a position (high enough) to bridle the same way every time, by holding the crown of your headstall in one hand and the bit itself in your other hand and control the bit while you are putting the bridle on. Make sure that you twist the curb chain flat before you hook it and leave at least two fingers space between it and your horse before you hook it. Now, to remove the bridle, do everything just like you did when you put it on, only do it in reverse. The first thing that you do is unbuckle the throat latch strap, then go around to the other side of your horse, so you can see what you are doing and unhook the curb chain....get your step stool and get up on it before you try to do any more. Fasten your halter around her neck temporarily until you get the bridle off...when you do that, she knows that you have her, and you do. Then at the same time that you reach between her ears and hold the crown of the headstall, use your other hand to control the bit by the sides...now, as you lower the headstall, slightly lift the bit over the teeth and out, being careful not to bump anything. While you are still up there on the stool, reach over and hang your bridle closely and halter your mare. After she is haltered, run your hand around her neck, head, whatever she tolerates...don't aggravate her. If you do use treats, now is the time to give one to her. I don't feed treats by hand to horses, but some people do...whatever works. It shouldn't be too long before she starts trusting you again and stop her antics.
Reply:Make sure she is calm and relaxed, then pull the crown over her ears, but hold up the bridle so the bit stays in place. Then, slowly lower the bridle, and maybe she will open her mouth and let the bit drop out. Put a finger in her mouth if she doesn't open her mouth to let the bit out. You might have to stand on a sturdy chair if she lifts her head too high for you to reach. Try not to bang the bit on her teeth, or let the chain on the kimberwick hurt her.
Reply:Check the horse for wolf teeth,

Have the vet evaluate her for mouth issues.

Then spend an hour just applying and removing the bit, start in baby steps and move on to full bridling.

Its just a training issue if cleared from the vet and if you can't fix it, have a professional help you.
Reply:I would say she is probably not too happy about the kimberwicke. I would suggest trying a kimberwicke with copper or rollers on it.

I would also take her bridle off slowly. My mare likes to hold the bit in her teeth before letting it go. I think she is slurping off the last bits of grass slobber. :-) Anyway I let her hold it and she will spit it out after a few moments.

Sometimes horses get sensitive about having their bridles removed because it has been removed too quickly and banged their teeth, but that doesn't sound like your problem.

I would practice bridling her, and offering a treat after you put it on. Rinse repeat. Though giving treats while bridled is not the best thing, it is also better than having a horse that doesn't bridle well!

You could also try and associate bridling with fun things. Put her in her bridle when you take her to go outside in the pasture, then take it off when you let her go (don't leave it on while she is loose!) then put it back on to go back into the barn. The more you practice the better in theory it should get.

Checking to see if she has wolf teeth is a great idea, if so they might need to be removed.

Good luck!
Reply:maybe she's one of those types of horses that has to use a

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my horse uses one and he's just fine..
Reply:Ok well then either get a new bit or cause it sounds like that one is either piching her tounge or she just dosen't like it!!!

You could tie her really tight when you go to take it out so she can't jerk her head every where or ask your parent/trainer 4 help!!!!

My horse has a blueish-purple steak on his gums, is this bad?

2010-05-17T20:53:00.001-07:00

I was researching horse gum colors and it said that blue-purple gums can indicate shock or poising, but it neglected to say whether this applied to a single gum color or any presence of the color. the rest of his gums are a normal plae pink, but near his back teeth it looks like a large vein, could this be what it is? please help, thank you

My horse has a blueish-purple steak on his gums, is this bad?
If the horse is going into shock or has major blood loss, the entire gum line will go blue/purple. To test, you do a CRT test or Capillary Refill Time. Lift up the lip and using your fingertip press hard on the gum. When you release the pressure, there will be a white spot left behind and you then count the time it takes to turn back to pink. 1 to 2 seconds is normal, 3 or over and there is a problem and you should then check temp, pulse and respiration and then contact your vet. When a horse has had a severe traumatic injury or really bad colic, you can lift the lip and immediately see that the gums are going blue and a vet should be called immediately. Your horse sounds like it's fine and that it's just a variation in gum color. However, knowing how to use the CRT test or visually seeing blue gums will help you in an emergency (hopefully you won't ever need it).
Reply:i dont think sooo

cuz like i have a dog who has a blueish tounge tht is polka dots but vetinirian said its fine but ask the veteninerian to make sure.....
Reply:When they're in shock it's all the pink tissue changing color, so don't worry about that.. what your boy has is normal, it's just a pigment change in the skin.
Reply:Your horse is fine if he's always had that streak. What you read was talking about if the gums suddenly changed colors. If he was in shock or poisoned, you'd also see other symptoms.
Reply:Look under your tounge and I bet you see the exact same thing that you are seeing in your horses mouth. Normal anatomy.
Reply:He could be dehydrated
Reply:probably normal but have it checked
Reply:How long has he had this. His gums should be flesh color.

My horse won't take the bit!?

2010-05-17T20:53:00.000-07:00

My horse refuses to take the bit and it's getting very frustrating. Is there any other tricks i can use besides coating it w/ food and using my finger in the corner of her mouth? She was okay w/ taking the bit and then she slowely has gotten worse. She started with gritting her teeth and tightening her lips and now she shakes her head up and down. It can take me as long as a half hour to get the bit in and i don't know what to do. Once i get it in i give her a treat and then she's the fine w/ it the whole time i'm riding her. Any suggestions?

My horse won't take the bit!?
I would definetly get her teeth checked, that could cause alot of problems. I would do that first, and if nothing is wrong then maybe you are hitting her teeth by accident while putting the bit in, just be very careful and try to see what is bothering her about it most is it when you touch her ears, or when the bit touches her teeth?...anoher ting could be is, do you live in a colder place?...maybe you need to warm the bit up before you put it in her mouth that culd definelty be what it is make sure you warm the bit up if it is cold by rubing the bit in your hands.

I sure do hope that helped, I know that this can be very frustrating.
Reply:Focus on getting her to lower her head for starters :)

How you can do this:

1. Take your hand and put it on top of her head, between the ears on what is called "the pole".

2. Apply a small amount of pressure here

3. If she doesnt give in, apply a little more and a little more, until she puts her head down. She may not leave it down, but the first step is just understanding the right amount of pressure to get her to do this and then going from there.

Remember that every time she puts her head down and gives into the pressure, give her a rub on her nose and tell her she is good. She must know that what your teaching her, and her responding that way is good. Always use positive reinforcement. Once she gives in here and there, work on making her keep her head there by making her put her head down as LOW as she can put it, keeping it there, and end the lesson by putting her head back into a neutral position and then praising. YOU always want to be the one who ends the lesson.

Once youve got this down, start playing with her mouth. Rubbing her nose, putting your fingers into the sides of her mouth until youve literally bored her with it and she stands there.

Once youve got these two down, start working on putting the bit in. She should be 1. comfortable with you touching her in her mouth and 2. she now knows how to put her head down so its just a matter of applying these and slipping the bit in and out. Do it a few times, before you get on with your ride/lesson.

Also, I might point out that if she hasnt had her teeth done recently, make sure its not painful for her. It may very well be as simple also as having her teeth floated!

Good Luck and I hope this helped!

Its worked wonders with my 3yo :)

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If she is good with everything as far as her head and her mouth being played with, definatley get her teeth checked! You're doin the right thing. If only they could just speak to us huh? hahaha

Good Luck! :) You're definatley doing the right thing by having the vet out to check out her teeth! :)
Reply:Is there a broken tooth or mouth sore?

Is the bit clean and free of any bacteria buildup?

There may be pain associated with taking the bit in the past and that causes refusal now.
Reply:she probably dose need her teeth floated but if that dose not work, try using a bit warmer first before you try to get the bit in he mouth, a cold bit is really painful to them and can make them bit shy, also try instead of food, try a little honey, i used to work at a ranch and one of the horses just would not take the bit for anything, then one day I had the idea to put honey on it and it worked. now he gladly accepts the bit, even though the honey may make them play/ lick the bit while ridding, that is a good thing.
Reply:Well considering you wrote besides coating it with food, I don't have anything much, but I do have a few sugestions (one does have to do with coating it with food...kind of)

1. Dip it in Apple juice or wipe an apple around it and let your horse smell it first

2. take your pointer finger and thumb and GENTLY squeeze her mouth

3. DO NOT force her mouth open

hope i helped!!
Reply:DALLAS had a wonderful answer, which I only have one thing to add to it: You may be pulling on her mouth while you ride her.Be softer with your hands when riding. If she needs her teeth floated you can check by watching her eat. If she drops a lot of food, and eats very slowly, she needs her teeth floated. If not, it's just you. If she can't eat it's her teeth, if you're pulling, it's her mouth-corners and tongue.
Reply:you could be clicking her teeth when you put it in so when the bit comes she won't open her mouth. Work with her mouth by rubbing her gums (not all horses like it but many do) on the front of her teeth and bars. And make sure you don't click her teeth with the bit!